top 10 lightheavyweight champions

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  1. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    I have no idea about mine.

    Thoughts ?
     
  2. nahkis

    nahkis Robbed Full Member

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    Neither do I.

    Thoughts?
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    One of my favorite lists to make

    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Archie Moore
    3. Sam Langford
    4. Michael Spinks
    5. Bob Foster
    6. Billy Conn
    7. Gene Tunney
    8. Harry Greb
    9. Harold Johnson
    10. John Henry Lewis

    HM: Tommy Loughran
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is interesting because some of the usual suspects e.g Langford, Tunney, Charles are barred from standing.

    1. Archie Moore
    2. Michael Spinks
    3. Tommy Loughran

    4. Bob Fitzsimmons
    5. Billy Conn
    6. Jack Dillon
    7. Bob Foster
    8. Maxie Rosenbloom
    9. Harold Johnson
    10. John Henry Lewis
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Some of your picks fall foul of the champion clause.
     
  6. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lauhgrin(spelling) JHL, Charles, Delany, Berlinbauch, OBrien, Bettina, Dillon just some great old names to start things off.
     
  7. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Ohhhh...It appears I did not read carefully enough.

    Here is my new list

    1. Archie Moore
    2. Michael Spinks
    3. Bob Foster
    4. Billy Conn
    5. Harold Johnson
    6. John Henry Lewis
    7. Tommy Loughran
    8. Roy Jones
    9. Jack Delaney
    10. Jack Dillon
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Not wishing to be pedantic, but did Jones actualy establish lineage?

    Opinion seems to be divided on this point.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    You certainly can make a case he did not. It's a crying shame Jones never fought DM.

    Btw I edited my list, Dwight Qawi was never lineal.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    You have to make a helluva case for ranking him above Archie Moore. I rate Archie Moore in my top 10 greatest fighters of all time list.
     
  11. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Michael Spinks broke through against Holmes, where Archie was knocked out against an aging Marciano and relative neophyte Patterson. I wouldn't consider selecting Mike Spinks for a top ten P4P list as an irrational choice either. Michael got caught frozen cold at the end against a peaking Tyson, while Moore was starched in one at 175 by Morrow.

    Within 175 itself, I would argue that Michael never came as close to being dethroned as Moore did in the first Durelle fight. Michael was never defeated at 175, while Archie got knocked out by Charles as well as Morrow. Moore outweighed Patterson by five pounds when they fought. If they both came in under 175 for Marciano's vacant title, would Archie have been left without a crown?

    I do rate Michael at the top. Making weight was never going to be any kind of issue for him, and he was at a point where he could have reigned unchallenged at 175 for as long as he cared to.

    Moore is my number two choice. Given a timely shot at Freddie Mills or Lesnevich, and considering that he drew with Pastrano in 1962, the realization surfaces that he could easily have reigned from the 1940s to the 1960s. Reaching further, maybe even from WW II to Vietnam, given some lucky breaks and discriminant cautious matchmaking.

    3) Loughran. For a fleeting moment after Tunney's retirement, Tommy may have been the best heavyweight in the world as well. In the first half of 1929, Loughran-Walker and Loughran-Braddock were as close as we came to having heavyweight title fights in Gene's immediate wake.

    4) Conn. Billy could be beaten at 160. He owned 175, handling his successor Lesnevich twice. Like Spinks and Moore, he could easily have reigned for over a decade. (In fact, if Billy had gone on as long as possible, Moore would have been the one to eventually dethrone him.)

    5) Bob Foster.

    6) Philadelphia Jack O'Brien

    7) Jack Delaney

    8 Harold Johnson

    9) Battling Levinski

    10) Jack Dillon

    HM: John Henry Lewis
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    A good list, but I cant see why you have Bat Levinsky over Jack Dillon when their series was so lopsided.
     
  13. McGrain

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  14. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Bob Foster was a bum.
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    He beat Frankie De Paula