Top 10 Lightweights of All Time

1 - Roberto Duran
2 - Pernell Whitaker
3 - Benny Leonard
4 - Ike Williams
5 - Joe Gans
6 - Henry Armstrong
7 - Tony Canzoneri
8 - Alexis Arguello
9 - Shane Mosley
10-Carlos Ortiz

 

I forgot Napoles, might have been near his best weight, drop him in from 3-5

 

What has that got to do with anything?

Based on acomplishments it would be hard to put Joe Gans outside the top 3.

 

Wrong. Yes, only body sparring. Not full contact sparring.

 

You said Floyd could stop him late and score a knockdown or two, which is why I brought up the fact Basilio stood up to Robinsons power and you talked about how Ray was past his best. I'm not putting words in your mouth you claimed Floyd could knockdown Basilio.

 

He's there because he's a head to head monster against most of the top lightweights except for Duran and Whitaker. It' not his fought the fight against Stevie Johnson didn't get done.

 

Duran would not fight at 135 again post 1980, indeed he never fought at 135 post 78, so what has a fight at 147, in 1980 got to do with Duran at 135 pre 79?

 

He was at his best during his early welterweight reign, until he ran into Forrest. His skills peaked during that time as did his speed.

 

He was better during these fights; Wise, Rivera, De La Hoya I, Diaz, Taylor, Stone.

 

As I already said, because it makes him a fighter that is willing to disgracefully and inexcusably quit. He's that fighter whether we talk about him at lightweight, welterweight, or any other weight.

 

The fighter who lost to Leonard in 1980 was not the fighter who destroyed Lampkin, that was Duran at his best at 135.

You would not hold Arguello up for coming back perhaps 20 years and 15lbs past his best to lose to one Scott Walker, would you?

 

What's disgraceful or inexcusable about losing a decision?

Besides, I don't have Arguello rated as #1 either, so what's the difference?

 

Herol Graham and Chris Eubank sparred all out at Wincobank

 

I think he was every bit as good at LW if not better, he looked much more fluid back then. Plus he had that massive size advantage at LW

 

Nothing; same as losing to one of the three best Welters of all-time as well as a top 20 all-time fighter, having his premier performance against you, despite you being 12lbs over your best fighting weight.

It also has nothing to do with your career at a different weight.