Top 10 Lightweights of All Time

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    McGrain, you been drinking tonight? You said this "He fought NOBODY with a losing record, he fought only one suspect fighter between the loss and win over ranked Marty Marshall (8th and 10th fight respectively!) and then proceeded to clean out his division. Liston was arguably the best fighter in a stacked divsion for ten years!"

    You then give me fighters he faced with losing records :lol: And where is this "nobody with a losing record" streak he went on. Point it out to me, please. You make it sound as if every opponent he faced, prior to getting beat by Ali, or after, or before he fought Marshall, he fought "nobody with a losing record"



    McGrain. He never bounced back. Bouncing back to me is winning the title again. I count his winning streak after the Ali defeat as bouncing back somewhat. Different wave lengths we are on. I said he never got to the top of the mountain after his brief reign as heavyweight champion. He never had bounce-back-ability at the top, hence losing to Ali in the rematch.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Liston fought no fighters with losing records post Summerlin until he met Bailey.

    In total,according to boxrec, he fought 4 fighters with losing records when he fought them,post Ali. Between Summerlin and Bailey he fought 0.

    This is nothing like 70%
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Robbi - when Liston fought Welch, Welch had 14 wins and 9 losses - the wins come first.
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    A fighter with no losing record is unbeaten was my initial interpretation. Ahhhh sorry, do you mean a fighter who has more losses than wins? Thats where how I might be on the moon and you might be on pluto. I thought you meant all the fighters he faced when he fought them were unbeaten. Now, before you laugh at me many others would have thought the same.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :rofl

    Come on, I wasn't trying to claim he had beaten 20 unbeaten fighters!!!!

    Hahahahaha Jesus Christ,I thought you had actually gone postal.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    McGrain, I thought the same about you. I was like "what the **** is he talking about" Thats us safely back down to planet earth and on the same planet.

    :lol::lol:
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    And the lightweight thread is destroyed!
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I can sometimes poke in and change a threads main content and talking point upside down. It has been known. :roll:
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    I thought a losing record was a losses on the trott or last 5 coming in, so does DLH have a losing record coming into the Pacman fight :huhor Morales coming into the second/third Pacman fights :huh
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    A winning record is 5-4

    A losing record is 4-5.

    OR

    A winning record is 50-49

    A losing record is 49-50.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you trying to imply the well known secret that Marciano lost his first 50 before his 49winning streak?
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    Plus, he ducked Harry Wills and Charley Burley.
     
  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    A fighter with no losing record can also be seen as a fighter who's unbeaten. Nobody is right or wrong. The basic way of taking and abosrbing what you said would be how I done it.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    The *******, and he really lost to Walcott/Moore/Charles when they were prime and before his 49-0 streak, then he waited and waited, for them to get old
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Nah. Honestly, never heard it before tonight. In promotion, when a promoter talks about a winning figter he is talking strictly about one who has more wins than loses. When he talks about a losing fighter he is talking about an "opponent". Press is the same.