McGrain, you been drinking tonight? You said this "He fought NOBODY with a losing record, he fought only one suspect fighter between the loss and win over ranked Marty Marshall (8th and 10th fight respectively!) and then proceeded to clean out his division. Liston was arguably the best fighter in a stacked divsion for ten years!" You then give me fighters he faced with losing records And where is this "nobody with a losing record" streak he went on. Point it out to me, please. You make it sound as if every opponent he faced, prior to getting beat by Ali, or after, or before he fought Marshall, he fought "nobody with a losing record" McGrain. He never bounced back. Bouncing back to me is winning the title again. I count his winning streak after the Ali defeat as bouncing back somewhat. Different wave lengths we are on. I said he never got to the top of the mountain after his brief reign as heavyweight champion. He never had bounce-back-ability at the top, hence losing to Ali in the rematch.
Liston fought no fighters with losing records post Summerlin until he met Bailey. In total,according to boxrec, he fought 4 fighters with losing records when he fought them,post Ali. Between Summerlin and Bailey he fought 0. This is nothing like 70%
A fighter with no losing record is unbeaten was my initial interpretation. Ahhhh sorry, do you mean a fighter who has more losses than wins? Thats where how I might be on the moon and you might be on pluto. I thought you meant all the fighters he faced when he fought them were unbeaten. Now, before you laugh at me many others would have thought the same.
:rofl Come on, I wasn't trying to claim he had beaten 20 unbeaten fighters!!!! Hahahahaha Jesus Christ,I thought you had actually gone postal.
McGrain, I thought the same about you. I was like "what the **** is he talking about" Thats us safely back down to planet earth and on the same planet.
I can sometimes poke in and change a threads main content and talking point upside down. It has been known. :roll:
I thought a losing record was a losses on the trott or last 5 coming in, so does DLH have a losing record coming into the Pacman fight :huhor Morales coming into the second/third Pacman fights :huh
A winning record is 5-4 A losing record is 4-5. OR A winning record is 50-49 A losing record is 49-50.
Are you trying to imply the well known secret that Marciano lost his first 50 before his 49winning streak?
A fighter with no losing record can also be seen as a fighter who's unbeaten. Nobody is right or wrong. The basic way of taking and abosrbing what you said would be how I done it.
The *******, and he really lost to Walcott/Moore/Charles when they were prime and before his 49-0 streak, then he waited and waited, for them to get old
Nah. Honestly, never heard it before tonight. In promotion, when a promoter talks about a winning figter he is talking strictly about one who has more wins than loses. When he talks about a losing fighter he is talking about an "opponent". Press is the same.