Top 10 Mexican fighters of all-time?

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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I agree with anyone who says JMM is the best of the recent generation of Mexican fighters (i.e. Post-Chavez). Barrera and Morales were both wonderful but Marquez deserves the top spot in that list.

    Saldivar? Had he kept going between 68 and 70, he'd probably be a contender for no. 1. But he did enough between 64 and 67 to make anybody's top 10 (probably top 5 too) Like has already been said, he's a guy who still flies under the radar, even for Mexicans.

    I remember when I first met a Mexican friend of mine and found out he was a boxing fan I started mentioning Mexican fighters - Chavez obviously, Sal Sanchez, Olivares, etc and he looked delighted that this British kid would even have heard of Mexican boxers. Then I said the name Vincente Saldivar and he looked blank.

    So just on that basis, I'd say he's underrated in Mexico!
     
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  2. Jel

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    Still putting my list together and debating placement but the one thing I'm sure of is 1 and 2 - Chavez and Olivares. I actually think there's a bit of gap between those two and the rest.

    There's arguments for no. 3 for a host of fighters. Currently I have Saldivar with Sanchez a very short distance behind him.

    Saldivar should be automatically in anyone's top 10 for fighters of the 60s, all time featherweights and all time Mexican fighters. No doubt he'll get his dues over time and ultimately be one of those fighters who's "so underrated he's now overrated". Just doing my bit to accelerate the process!

    One thought I had on why he might be underrated (apart from not being an extrovert like Olivares was) is that he fought before the great generation of Mexican fighters of the 70s so he's generally ommited through lack of association. People just forget to include him because of it.
     
  3. ChrisJS

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    Chiquita is top 20 perhaps/probably top 15.

    Arce is nowhere. I’d say Jose Luis Castillo is one of the most underrated and certainly worthy of a mention as top 20. Far better than the likes of Cuevas for example. Wins over Johnston, Casamayor, Corrales and Mayweather (yes he won the first) are superb.
     
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  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Ok, I respectfully disagree.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Castillo lost the first fight to Mayweather.
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

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    1 JCC
    2 Olivares
    3 Saldivar
    4 Sanchez
    5 JMM
    6 Canto
    7 Barerra
    8 Zarate
    9 Lopez
    10 Morales
     
  7. Flea Man

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    What we have to consider when weighing up JMM to other Mexican greats is that they didn’t have Memo in their camp for some of their defining fights.
     
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  8. The Malibu Mauler

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    I agree with most lists, but I think Raúl Macias has good potential to be there, he's pretty underrated but was a great fighter.
     
  9. Jel

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    Thanks for posting my list as well as yours!

    Actually, I have Morales slightly higher and Lopez slightly lower but ither than that, yep, it's the same.
     
  10. Flea Man

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    I see no case whatsoever for Lopez being above Morales.
     
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  11. mcvey

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    That's pretty damn solid.I'd move some around but they look to be the right names.
     
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  12. Gudetama

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    1. Chavez
    2. Olivares
    3. Sanchez
    4. Saldivar
    5. Canto
    6. Zarate
    7. JM Marquez
    8. Barrera
    9. Morales
    10. R Lopez
     
  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Olivares
    Chavez
    Jmm
    Saldivar
    Barrera
    Sanchez
    Lopez
    Morales
    Zarate
    Canto
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great list ru!
     
  15. roughdiamond

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    Ruben Olivares
    Salvador Sanchez
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Vicente Saldivar
    Miguel Canto

    Chucho Castillo
    Carlos Zarate
    Erik Morales
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Baby Arizmendi
     
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