top 10 Mexican fighters of all time?

You might want to ask that question Sunday ;-). Looks good so far. A couple others that come to mind are Ruben Olivares and Lupe Pintor.

 

1. Julio Cesar Chavez
2. Ruben Olivares
3. Vicente Saldivar
4. Salvador Sanchez
5. Oscar De La Hoya(Mexican-American)
6. Ricardo Lopez
7. Erik Morales
8. Marco Antonio Barrera
9. Miguel Canto
10. Carlos Zarate

 

Barrera would rather be one spot behind any other fighter!!! I actually agree with that though, i was always a great Barrera fan in his prime, and therefore always wanted him to beat Morales when they met, but in hindsight im a massive admirer of Morales and would also agree that you have him one spot above Barrera.

I dont know how my list would go, but yours is a good one.

 

The only thing i would disagree on personally is that i may have DLH lower and Zarate higher, but i think you'll have good reasons/criteria for how you compiled your list

 

A lot of it's based on resume, though I made certain exceptions.

 

olivares really is underrated on this forum. he doesnt get the credit he deserves

Here is my 10:

JCC
Salvador Sanchez
Olivares
Oscar De La Hoya
MAB
Zarate
Ricardo Lopez
Vicente Salvidor
Morales
Kid Azteca
Canto (if dlh doesnt count)

 

That's a good list Sweet Pea. I'd have a hard time leaving Lupe Pintor out of the top ten based on his efforts against Zarate and Gomez. I guess I'd yank Oscar out and claim him for America.

Is there a fight one should watch or try to get a hold of to view Olivares at his best? I tend to think most of what I've seen is when he was on the down side.

 

Watch his destruction of Lionel Rose.

 

Cool, thanks. I've seen a lot of his fights from '74 on. I know he's ranked really high on the "Ring 80 for the last 80" list. #29 I believe. I can't justify that from what I've seen, but admittedly, I haven't seen enough of his fights. Either way, there's no shame in getting stopped by the likes of Arguello, Lopez and Pedroza.

 

here is a link:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=m45R5B4N_1Y

 

ruben was like 56-0 (nearly all KO's) before getting beat by chucho castillo in 1970 and that was on a cut. he soon gained revenge

in his younger days, the only guy who properly knocked him out was arguello. i know that lopez ko'd him in the 'shot' years

 

............Actually, Herrera bounced him pretty good in taking the bantamweight title from Ruben. A much more conclusive victory than the cut-induced TKO by Castillo.

I rank Ruben right up there though. A bit inconsistent once he started taking on the real world-class fighters (perhaps as much because he didn't want to give up any of the rich pageantry of life while training).

 

.............Here's Olivares-Herrera........

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He was past his prime in all of those bouts, but if you'll notice, even as the smaller man he was outboxing Arguello prior to the stoppage.