Top 10 P4P at the end of 2007???? What's yours???

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  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I know you are a candidate on the ESB board but your diplomacy tactic has gotten out of hand..:rofl :rofl This list is Shite! You might lose votes on this comment:yep
     
  2. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Well, I see that Rocky can beat JMM(if the fight is still on). I am just wishing for a Hatton upset, and I think that Mosley is a better win at this point than MAB is. Pacman has already beaten MAB, so I can't give alot of points as if it was the first time they met.

    If Hatton beats PBF, I think he should drop alot, since I think his first spot wasn't spot on in the first place.

    Your last comment was my thought exactly, so I decided in the end to place him first. Beating Calzaghe is really the best thing you can do, I think. After that Floyd, and therefore Hatton is placed 2nd.
     
  3. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    At least my list isn't a direct copy from a magazine.

    Of course alot on my list requires some favourites to loose, but I don't think it's of Utopic proportions.
     
  4. JAM Killer

    JAM Killer Coming Through. Full Member

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  5. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dawson lost his Dance partner. I guess he's out of this p4p consideration.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dawson may get in anways, since many in front of him may lose, and he is unbeaten and looks very good.
     
  7. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who he is fighting next to be considered??? A journeyman??? Call Glenn Johnson Then I'll consider him.
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He already beat a top level fighter. He has shown considerable skill. Ring may rank him anyways. Others here do because of his win over Adamek.

    Glenn Johnson BTW, was considered a journeyman until he beat an old Jones.
     
  9. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But he's not a journeyman anymore after that. Mendoza has 2 decent win thou against Rubin williams & Olajide. But Dawson win against him won't help him in the P4P consideration.

    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=139128&cat=boxer
     
  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thus my point....why is he not considered a journeyman anymore? Is he any better than he was? You once called Baldomir a journeyman.

    Either way, Dawson doesn't need to fight Diaconu to be considered for P4P. He is already being considered, he just has not solidified his place.
     
  11. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Baldomir is a Good Journeyman but he beat only a shot Gatti & an overrated Judah who both accumulate loses after Baldo beat them.

    With Johnson win, Dawson will have more credit. How about Beating a guy who KO the former #1 P4P of the world. & has a win against former top 10 P4P tarver. Johnson Is also tested as he has fought toughest competition. by the way Johnson was a Fighter of the Year 3 yrs ago.
    Boxrec Rated him #3 while mendoza was #56. Pac fought undefeated Solis & Larios who was top 10 in all ratings & it was just a tune-up. And he never gets Credit.
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxrec has no credibility.

    You cannot change you stance in mid debate. Judah was rated just where he was. I can just as easily call Johnson overrated. You either rely on rankings or you don't. You cannot just decide one is overrated when it supports you. Johnson also lost after beating a prone Jones and Tarver, same as Baldomir.

    3 years ago is 3 years ago. He has lost since then to Woods, an good fighter but not an elite one. We don't rate fighters on what they did 3 years ago. If Johnson cannot even beat Woods, then he is not a top caliber fighter. Dawson beat Adamek, he doesn't need Johnson.

    Solis nor Larios were rated by Ring in Pacman's weight class when he fought them.
     
  13. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac was not rated either at 126 when Pac Dominated Barrera.

    Woods winning by SD is just like a draw or win for Johnson. You didn't get the point. Dawson won't get P4P points with a Mendoza win. end of the story.
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't get the point. He doesn't NEED Mendoza, he is already being considered. If people in front of him lose, and he shows up great, he can get in.

    A SD is not a win or a draw for Johnson. It's a loss. Or do you consider a draw a win or a loss too? That makes no sense at all.

    And who cares if Pacman wasn't rated at 126 when he fought Barrera. Pacman was a champion coming up to fight for someone elses title. Larios and Solis were not. Apples and Oranges. They are not equal scenarios. The point is, you said they were rated and they weren't. Larios was 2 weight classes down, and Solis wasn't rated at all, so the statement is false. Bring up Pacman has nothing to do with what you said. We aren't talking about his ranking.
     
  15. PacDbest

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    To be considered at the top of P4P, Either you beat a P4P guy or You Dominated your weight Class in at least 2 years. Is Adamek a P4P guy??? How long did Dawson had his title??? Did He fought any former top 10 P4P guys??? Dawson needs a Hopkins, Winky, RJJ or Tarver's name in his resume to be considered.
     
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