Top 10 P4P Fighters doing what Marquez did and fighting the top 2 fighters at the...

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  1. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Exactly this.
     
  2. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The difference is that Mayweather has been fighting at a higher division, May only had one fight at 154, Marquez only had 2 before he moved up to welterweight, moving up to 168, from a fight or two at 154, would be 14 pounds, Marquez moving up from 135 to welter after fighting 2 times at 135 is 12 pounds,

    14-12 = 2, 2 pounds would be the difference, and 2 pounds don't mean a thing right? Plus May is a top 5 fighter.

    I wonder why it's so much harder for 154 fighters to move up straight to 168(14 pounds), than it is for 135 fighters to move straight to 147(12 pounds), light middleweights would have a larger frame than lightweights, so those 2 pounds wouldn't make much of a difference right?

    :think What's the reason for 154 fighters not being able to do what 135 fighters have done?

    is it...

    because the Historically the biggest fights are found at middleweight, therefor 154 fighters have no reason to move up to 168 for a big fight, when they cn already have one at 160?

    Or because Lightweight has simply had better skilled fighters than light middleweight, making it easier for lightweight to move up straight to 147? add to that, that 147 has Historically had some of the most popular fighters in History, and that's where the biggest fights can be made.

    Eaither way, the weight is not the issue, 135 to 147 = 12 pounds, 154 to 168 = 14 pounds, not a big difference. I can see the big difference betweeen 135 to 147 = 12 pounds, and 168 to 200 = 32 pounds, That's the only one that seem's a little ridiculous.
    All other jumps seem reasonable..

    Martinez 160 to 175 = 15 pounds
    Mayweather 154 to 168 = 14 pounds
    Bradley 147 to 160 = 13 pounds
    Marquez vs Mayweather = 12 Pounds
    Gamboa 130 to 140 = 10 pounds
    Donaire 122 to 130 = 8 Pounds
    Wonjongkam 115 to 122 = 7 Pounds



    Obviously the smaller divisions have smaller fighters with smaller frames, bigger fighters can add more weight, with less difficulty than the smaller fighters.
     
  3. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes Pac did the move, but vs the #1 ranked fighters at welterweight? Was De La Hoya the #1 welterweight at the time? De La Hoya wasn't even top 10 at welterweight at the time Pac fought Hoya. THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE, I'm talking about fighting the the top 2 guys two divisions up. :bbb

    Also about Pac coming from 108, we all know that he started at 105, DI HE make the jump from 108 to 135 where he fought Diaz? Pac was already a top 2 Junior Lightweight when he made the move to 135 then 147. But yes, Pac has already done it, not vs a top 10 fighter but he did it, he stayed there and ruled for a few years.

    But that's why I added Pac at the end, just for fun:yep. It's mostly about the other fighters who haven't Jumped up 2 divisions skipping one, and fighting a top 2 fighter at that division, (although, NOT even Pacquiao did the fighting a top 2 fighter, not even when he made his move from 115 to 122 skipping 118 ).





    People should be complaining about Ward having to fight at a 200 lbs Limit, how come no complaints about that one?