Top 10 P4P list now

GGG is faded and not worthy of inclusion on a pfp list, imo. My instinct is that Crawford is the *best* fighter in the world, but based on resume he has to get dropped some. What a waste of a prime. Crawford/Spence is my No. 1 matchup in the entire sport, but it appears very unlikely and now who even knows what Spence has left. Boxing really suffers because of stuff like this.

I'd still have Loma in the top 5. He hasn't lost anything in my eyes because of Saturday. I don't flip out when people lose occasionally.

 

I absolutely agree. That is not to diminish his standing but his time has come and gone. What he really needed to have done was step up and face Andre Ward at the time and taken his loss. This would have enhanced in a similar way to Canelo stepping up to face Floyd and taking his schooling like a man. Instead GGG tried to keep playing flat track bully until Canelo gave him sleek school in their first fight and the requested Mexican style in the rematch.

 

I think its safe to say GGG is off most of Esb's p4p list. And rightfully so. They young fighters are making a splash and its out with the old in with the new.

 

Usyk
Crawford
Canelo
Inoue
Taylor
Spence
Lopez
Estrada
Fury
Pacquiao

 

Breidis has to be in the top 10

 

Top 20 maybe.

 

Golovkin beat Canelo in the first fight with the jab alone.

 

1. Canelo
2. Crawford
3. Usyk
4. Lopez
5. Estrada
6. Spence
7. Inoue
8. Lomachenko
9. Berchelt
10. Bredis

 

Calling him Jermello sounds disrespectful best then just call hill Mell as his twin brother is called Mall. Your comments about Tony Harrisson no less substantiated by the late great Manny Steward confirm Harrisson is a quality operator. He is not a C-Level operator. I can name C-Level operators but it’s not my job or purpose to denigrate fighters who I hold in the highest esteem except for blatant corrupt cheats like Margarito who I have said have no place in society less boxing. Harrisson is an A-/B or B+ fighter. Good solid old school skills from Michigan and the Mid-West.

The fanboys can say what they want but the truth is Canelo beat Lil G in the rematch and in the first fight I gave that to him as well with his sleek school tactics learned from Floyd Mayweather who gave him expert tutoring when they fought. When great fighters like Ali and Mayweather we’re past their Ali stopped the unbeatable George Foreman and Floyd schooled the undefeated Canelo Alvarez. So trying to claim the so called unbeatable GGG was last his best does it wash. Presumably when he was at his best he was knocking out overmatched guys and smaller guys. Don’t let me get started on the Gary Jacobs fight.

As for Lomachenko there is really not much to say as you would indeed be wasting both of our times. The evidence was clearly before us on Saturday night during the fight. I was one of the few who predicted a convincing Teofimo Lopez win. This is not because I dislike Loma because actually I do like him but I pay attention to details including minute details in boxing so those of us in the know had observed his weaknesses waiting to be exploited. He was up against a more skillful technical boxer puncher with excellent ring IQ who understands the game and angles with solid timing. Loma realized early that he could not do what he did with others as he would have got knocked out. It was in the 2nd half of the fight he tried to raise the tempo but Lopez was very much there hence a desperate Loma started resorting to cheating with head butts etc but he picked the wrong hombre for that. Round 12 the final round said it all when Teofimo laid it on him again and hurt him with the referee stopping the action for some 30 seconds possibly preventing a knockdown.

 

I respectfully disagree.

 

1. Canelo
2. Inoue
3. Usyk
4. Crawford
5. Spence
6. Lopez
7. Loma
8. Pacquiao
9. Rungvisai
10. J Taylor