Top 10 p4p over the last 25 years

Tier One
1.Pernell Whitaker
2.Roy Jones Jr
3.Julio Cesar Chavez
Tier Two
4.Evander Holyfield
5.Bernard Hopkins
6.Lennox Lewis
7.Floyd Mayweather Jr
8.Mike McCallum
9.Michael Spinks
Tier Three
10.Oscar De La Hoya...

(I haven't included anyone whose peak was not within the last 25 years, thereby ruling out the Fab Four)

My lists change all the time, so this isn't set in stone. The order of my 2nd tier in particular will probably be different tomorrow, to me all those guys are so evenly matched. I am sure of my top 3 and their order, but after that I find it too difficult to separate from Holyfield at 4 up to Spinks at 9 satisfactorily.

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Sorry, just messing with you. I was curious as to why you didn't want to include those guys.

 

I do agree with 60% of the names on your list.

Marvin Hagler was 29, and defeated Thomas Hearns within the last 25 years. Hagler was 29 in 1983, 25 years ago. Hagler defeated Hearns in 1985. I don't see how you can say Hagler was not at his peak within the past 25 years.

 

Hagler only had 8 fights from 1983 onwards, losing one. Are 7 wins enough to place a man in the top 10 p4p, ahead of others who had their whole careers within the time-period? In my opinion, no it doesn't.

The Hearns win was 1 fight, and to be honest I think the Hagler who beat Minter, Antuofermo and Lee 1980-82 was a better version than the one who fought Leonard, Mugabi, Roldan and Duran.

Had the time period been the last 30 years, Hagler would be in there of course.

 

They all achieved a good deal in the past 25 years, but all did a lot before that time span also. Including fighters that had parts of their prime on the list and parts of is more difficult and I didn't feel like judging "well how good was he during this period" or similar questions, where as the past 20 years, only Chavez and McCallum really get parts of their careers cut off and it's just the early stuff really.

For instance, Hagler beat Hearns, Sibson, Duran, Mugabi, Roldan, Scypion, and Hamsho in the past 25 years, with his overall best performance of his career probably being against Sibson.

So is that enough for a top 3 ranking, or top 4? His wins over Antefeurmo, Minter, Watts, Briscoe, Hart, Monroe, Finnegan, were all prior to 1983, so does that mean he should be towards the end of the top 10?

Maybe not by much, but it's just easier for me to do the past 20 instead of past 25, and I was too lazy to analyze the parts of their careers that were inside the time span and speculate were to put them with fighters that had their entire careers inside the past 25 years.

 

That is solid justification for both of your reasonings. I respect your opinions to leave those guys out.

I left them in because I was trying to balance how good they still were, as well as their accomplishments. It did make it a little difficult.

 

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1 roy jones
2 b hop
3 floyd mayweather jn
4 oscar de la hoya
5 joe calzaghe
6 ricky hatton
7 mike tyson
8 evander holyfield
9 lennox lewis
10 vitali kitchko

 

i'm no boxing expert, but i know for sure that these two names don't belong anywhere near a top 10 p4p of the last 25 years list.

 

Does it matter all that much if someone like Hagler has a large chunk of his career cut out?.the version that did fight during the alloted time woudl still smash fighters like Morales, Pac man, DLH, Tito...

In fact i'd wager that the one that lost to Leonard was a better fighter straight-up than every single one of those i mentioned.

Suppose it depends your criteria though.I'd leave the eighties out entirely rather than cutting the decade in half.Then it's an easier comparison between the best fighters from the past two decades.

 

Makes sense.

 

Good list. I'd have Jones Jr ahead of Hopkins and Chavez higher, tho.