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  1. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! booted Full Member

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    Prepare for school!
     
  2. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! booted Full Member

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    You have long time (years ago) lost any credibility, if you had such, when you created some different profiles here at the same time and tried to make a fool of us, even with statements like Folley was robbed vs. Mildenberger, about you got corrected years before, but you pretend this again!
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On The Folley v Mildenberger fight this is what I posted.

    "Veteran Zora Folley gave young Karl Mildenberger a boxing lesson Friday night but the judges evened it up and called it a draw - a verdict that stunned most of the 12,000 fans that jammed the Messehalle here to watch the two highly ranked heavyweights in what was billed as an elimination match. Folley carved out cuts under Mildenberger's eyes and repeatedly scored with solid left jabs and straight right hands over the southpaw efforts of the German challenger. By the end of the 7th round Mildenberger had cuts under both eyes while Folley bled from the nose as a result of Mildenberger's left. Referee Otto Nispel took it upon himself to stop the fight time and again to warn Folley on butting and in the 8th round Nispel stopped the fight while he took Mildenberger to his corner and wiped the blood off his face so a doctor could come to the ringside and examine the cuts. Mildenberger, although clearly outclassed, never stopped trying and absorbed a tremendous amount of punishment from the American. He was still trying gamely in the 9th and 10th while Folley was content to coast and that was all the judges seemingly needed." -European Stars & Stripes

    • Unofficial Stars & Stripes scorecard - 7-2-1 Folley
    • The UPI reported that Folley, "appeared to have the upper hand against his 26 year old opponent." While the AP reported that Folley, "appeared to have piled up a good margin. He gave the German a battering in the 7th and 8th rounds."

    Post fight comments

    • "When the referee stopped the fight to examine the cuts, that gave Mildenberger time to recuperate." -Bill Swift, Folley's manager, claiming that Folley had hurt Mildenberger with a flurry of hard shots to the head just before the referee intervened.
    Klompton said he has the fight and in his opinion Folley was not robbed [it was ruled a draw] Germany was well known for bias against overseas fighters and a draw usually meant you won the fight but didn't get the decision .
    I then said I haven't seen the fight but will accept his opinion since he has.
    You bring this up about once a week so I thought I would just show this. NB I dont need to try and make a fool of you.
    You're doing a great job of it all on your own!!! LOL
     
  4. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! booted Full Member

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    England is more well known for home-decisions and there are more Germans robbed in the USA than vice versa (Schmeling vs. Sharkey II, Sturm vs. de la Hoya).

    And you still pretended he was robbed last year, although Klompton teached you the truth the truth in 2017 and he pointed that your article from Star and Stripes is the house and court magazine of the US army, where Folley was veteran (long time member), so it is a very biased piece of journalism, like youself.
     
  5. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So the AP and the UPI must have also been 'in on it' as well, right? Since they too felt Folley was robbed.
     
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    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! booted Full Member

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    It appears so, or do you think Klompton is a liar?:thinking:
     
  7. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn't know one way or another about him. I'm saying there are at least 3 wire services out there that said Folley deserved the decision. Can you produce any report to the contrary?
     
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    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! booted Full Member

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    Isn't it possible that all reports are from the same source either that the writer made it for each of them or they copy past it for the other services?

    Klompton had maintained to have watched the fight and that Mildenberger desevered a win in it. Even McDunkey admited that he haven't and who has superior insider informations than him. So will you be dunkier than him in this subject?
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Would he have to be ? Does everyone who disagrees with verdict of a fight you watch have to be a liar? I know its a word you freely use about posters from the safety of your computer.
    Klompton also thinks Layne deserved the win over Charles,I've never read a report that agrees with him,that doesn't mean he is lying ,he is entitled to his opinion,as were the reporters who sat ringside and watched the fight live.
    I know when I went to the fights monthly I would record them and watch them later at home,and I often got a different slant on things.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are very free with insults but not so quick to address all the facts that totally contradict your ignorant views.
    All who disagree with you, and that just about 100% of us, are according to you, ignorant of the period of boxing history they are talking about.Its so absurd because you think guys like
    Chase
    Bolden
    Booker
    Lytell
    Cocoa Kid
    Basora
    Williams
    Overlin
    Soose
    Belloise
    Wade
    Apostoli
    Are journeymen, and elevate alphabet champs like Abraham to all time level whilst preposterously including Papp in the top 5 all time great middles!
    Everyone here is laughing at you but you either cant see it or are so thick skinned it goes over your head!
     
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  11. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! booted Full Member

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    Well he gave very accuarte details about the fight, which you know and you when resigned and you admit you was wrong at that time (which you most likely have forgotten). If you turn this now around, then it seems very hypocrite to me.

    Have you any non-American (not English speaking)/ neutral source which support the accuse of Folley being robbed, or only biased ones?
     
  12. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! booted Full Member

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    Well you are a proven liar, as you show here again, as often aggreed people here with me (just about 830 times at least) and I think some would do it about this subject too, but only the hardcore haters have entered this thread now, despite little teenagers which are since about one year into boxing...

    When someone pretend Abraham doesn't deserve to be in the top 50 of Middleweight and even question his stand into the top 100, but doesn't prove this with an own list of at least that amount of places, then this is the peak of ignorance and I can't take whos argumentation serios.

    Despite the half of you named boxers were natural in a different weight class (as usual you try to fool us), from these names was only Holmes elite.

    And Papp is in the top 5 of Middleweight, because he is pound for pound top 10.

    By the way this subject is about Puerto Rican boxers, not for your nonsense and old discusions from somewhere else; so you ruined this topic like you did it with the same one I created already about one year ago.
     
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  13. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't be going to McVey asking the same question that I asked you. Repeating my earlier question, there are 3 wire services that felt Folley deserved the verdict, can you produce a report to the contrary? And don't proceed with that nonsense again that it was actually the same person because I've read them and and they all differed except for the verdict.
     
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  14. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! booted Full Member

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    You don't have any permission what I can do or not!

    All of these services were American and Klompton pointed that these were all from the same source as well. So it was actual just one writer.
    I bet I can find some German newspaper somewhere, which have the opinion that Mildenberger was jobbed (like Klompton did), so if you are able to read German then have a look.

    But McDunkey already admited that he was wrong there and that Klompton has better knowledge about it (who is the only one on board here who has watched it); otherwise who did you score this fight?
     
  15. KeedCubano

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    This is shocking post
     


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