top 10 p4p UK Boxers currently

There is some absolute nonsense on here. You don't get ranked for losses and near wins. Groves and Murray are well overrated on these lists. Who's there biggest win? Kenny Anderson? James DeGale 2 years ago? Come on he's got potential but until you beat someone not for me.
1.Froch
2.Burns
3.Khan
4.Quigg
5.Frampton
6.Groves
7.Murray
8.Brook
9.Fury
10.McDonnell

4-7 are pretty interchangeable and I wouldn't argue what order you put them in, 8-10 are quite subjective. 1,2 and 3 are pretty clear cut IMO.They may well be on the decline, I still think they've got a lot to offer, but until they lose or someone else steps up and beats a name you can't change them. This isn't as difficult as people are making out

 

I think Khan is done but you can't possibly argue Groves or Murray be above him. His wins are better than any of there wins, it's quite a simple formula. Yes he's lost a couple recently, so has Murray but that doesn't seen to get mentioned. Win over Maidana is better than a win over Khomitsky

 

Barker has retired or he would be number 3. I think khan is finished and Brook would stop him, I'm not a fan of his by any stretch but his record to date is better than both Groves and Murray. You could potentially Quigg and Frampton are better but neither have that big win to propel them over him

 

Yeah I don't disagree with that. What does that say about the others though? You can't rank based on potential so he stays there untill someone gets a win. It won't take long mind as there will be a few who will get better wins this year. Brook, Quigg and Fury will all go last him soon

 

Ability over achievements in my formula... Better to be number 4 in a talent rich division than the champ in a poor one. Belts can subjectively mean a great deal or nothing at all.

 

Ability means nothing if you don't win. It's unproven and means nothing. If you have that much ability then you should be able to get a big win

 

To take this to an extreme,and this isn't using any of the current fighters, would it better to beat some abc champion in a talentless weight, or lose but perform very well in a stacked weight class against a future ATG?

If Hatton came out of retirement again would he get on the list, based on all his achievements?

Do not get me wrong, actually winning is the name of the game, but I think as supposedly knowledgeable boxing fans we should be able to see a performance, even if that boxer loses and say 'he is very very good' and rank him accordingly, not just base it 'well he is a champion in that weight class, so how can that boxer possibly be better?'

How one perceives current ability > Achievements , but everything needs to be taken into account obviously

 

not in the the most corrupt sport going
the amoutn of dodgy decisions and premture stoppages means that statement of yours is wrong.

 

Froch
burns
frampton
quigg
murray
groves
brook
mcdonnell
barker
fury

 

1 Groves 2 Chisora 3 Khan 4 Froch 5 Frampton 6 Degale 7 Quigg 8 Burns 9 Brook 10 Eubank Jnr