How do you get there? Who can be listed as #1, 2 or 3 etc etc etc P4P and based on what? What does a boxer have to do to get the recognition and with that be part of that selected list? Does the #1 position can guarantee you a spot in the HOF? What does exactly being # 1 of the P4P list mean in real life? Does it mean that you are doing very well or does it mean that you are the best boxer or among the best boxers of you era regardless of the weighclass? Can we say that in order to be part of that selected list, the boxer should/has to be a great boxer? How do we determine who is a great boxer and who's not? Records...? What if I am not a skillful boxer, but I keep winning and beating my opponents in my weightclass all the time...and lets say I clean the division and unify titles.....can I be part of that list? Can I be the # 1? Please discuss.
Come on guys.... don't be shy. I know that many of you are very knowledgeable..... we read almost every single day in this forum about the P4P ranking. I am not pretending here that I know more than you....on the contrary, I only want to know your opinion about this particular topic....that's it. I am not challenging you whatsover.....I don't have the knowledge that many of you guys have....I just want to know your opinion...trust me on this one. Thanks.
Skills account for alot. But you would need to beat elites to be placed on the top. That you are the best, and its to some extent is provable.
floyd beat chico and i think jlc was top 10 when floyd beat him also. pacman only beat 1 top 10 p4per in mab because after em lost to raheem i doubt he was top 10.:yep
Very true.... I don't take any list serious that does not have PBF as no1... and Im not a PBF fan at all, he is clearly the P4P king right now though... I think Pac is a distant 2.:yep
Chico was the only one. Based on what has happened in the last 5 years, Pacman deserves it more imho.
So you don't think Pacman deserves it more? - okay - it can be argued against. Who do you then think deserves it?
Thanks for your answer. I agree with you. This ranking is very subjective. On one hand it tell us that these boxers who are in the top 10 are doing prettey well, but at the same time is misleading because the boxer placed in the #10 position could have the right style to beat the ones in the top three, even if #10 is not as skillful as the top three.
say if Cotto cleans out the divison even beat Mayweather then he would be top with out having the most skill out there
In my personal opinion, there comes a time when the most cold-blooded analysts can't make outa ton of fighters and as the employees of big brodcasting, successful media companies, these same employees/analysts have to make options on whom to focus attention and finantial resources. So P4P ratings is no more no less the exact result of the media strategy, television options and propaganda - like any political propaganda that has dragged millions of citizens into wars (economical/strategical goals) in the course of history, boxing propaganda has driven the attention of the public toward specific fighters with whom multi-million dollar contracts are celebrated just like soap advertisement... Pugilistic talent, Fashion trends, Social issues and Business Criteria all mingle to sell to the customers/fans that product and P4P is just another label like many other 3 letter words such as WBC, WBA, IBF, WBU, IBO. Boxing is still based on human resources in permanent transformation though, mutatis, mutandis, there are still artists and spectators just like in the gladiator days, but what does it mean to be pound per pound best really? Sweet Pea Whitaker - Roy Jones Jr - Oscar De La Hoya - Sugar Shane Mosley - Bernard Hopkins - Pretty Boy Floyd - Manny Pacquiao, what's the criteria underneath? Can they come up and down and beat everybody? Absolutely not, but they sell better than others doing so and rising up to inovative challenges - it's something like Star Wars, Jurassic Park or Indiana Jones movies, great labels that catch our attention, occupy our minds and stimulate our imagination as long as they last. Thank You.
