I'm white darling. My point is America has had the phrase "great white hope" in their history for years, is Pavlik their best "hope" hence the praise and credit he gets? Joe has 10 years as champ (11/12 now really), has made X defenses, beaten many guys who has been world champ etc. at one point, unified and undisputed. He has tenure, he's proven over time, has beaten everyone he's needed to beat. Pavlik has arguably three decent wins, 1 is very generous - Miranda. Thats his entire career. That does not make you p4p top 5/10 in my book. I'm not hating, i'm being realistic.
01. Manny Pacquiao 02. Joe Calzaghe 03. Miguel Cotto 04. Juan Marquez 05. Bernard Hopkins 06. Israel Vazquez 07. Rafael Marquez 08. Kelly Pavlik 09. Ivan Calderon 10. Cristian Mijares 11. Arthur Abraham 12. Mikkel Kessler 13. Wladimir Klitschko 14. Antonio Margarito 15. Ricky Hatton 16. David Haye 17. Chad Dawson 18. Jermain Taylor 10. Shane Mosley 20. Chris John 21. Joshua Clottey 22. Joan Guzman 23. Lucian Bute 24. Nonito Donaire 25. Steve Molitor 26. Antonio Tarver 27. Fernando Montiel 28. Nate Campbell 29. Juan Manuel Lopez 30. Jorge Linares EDIT
Barrett or Maskaev apparently. Good fights for me for his 2nd bout in the heavies, name opponents who are dangerous enough for it not to be called a certainty. People on these boards have to remember that most other heavyweight contenders in the top 10 have fights lined up already, so he can't just choose a Rahman or Valuev and so on. He comes through either of these with flying colours, which im confident he will. After this fight I think he should face Thompson, and dispose of him better than Wlad will do on Saturday. Then the people will see exactly why Klitschko should be slightly concerned about David.
I think he beats both guys imo ..Maskaev is the more dangerous of the 2 ..But I don't think Haye would have a problem with either guy ..
He bit Bronco Mckart and Gary Lockett.atsch Hell I think AA beating demers, and miranda twice is more of accomplishment then above mentioned! :happy
I think you have to put Cotto at number 1 if he beats Margarito ..And it would be a strong case consdiering Manny's last opponent ..If he did beat Margs in a convincing fashion the list should look like this .. 1.Cotto 2.Manny 3.Calzaghe
If Cotto was to beat Margo more impressively than Calzaghe did against Hopkins, I may move him to the #2 spot.. If Margo was to win, he could crack the top 10 and Cotto would drop somewhere close behind him.. With Vazquez and Marquez being inactive and BHop eyeing retirement, the top 10 could be some..
I got bored, not much thought into it but I like my list 1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Joe Calzaghe 3. Juan Manuel Marquez 4. Miguel Cotto 5. Israel Vasquez 6. Kelly Pavlik 7. Rafael Marquez 8. Christian Mijares 9. Ivan Calderon 10. Joan Guzman 11. Bernard Hopkins 12. David Haye 13. Mikkel Kessler 14. Shane Mosely 15. Ricky Hatton 16. Arthur Abraham 17. Nate Campbell 18. Joel Casamayor 19. Jermain Taylor 20. Fernando Montiel 21. Chad Dawson 22. Wladimir Kiltchsko 23. Antonio Margarito 24. Juan Diaz 25. Chris John 26. Ulises Solis 27. Nonito Donaire 28. Paul Williams 29. Steve Molitor 30. Hugo Cazares
There is no excuse to have Calderon in the top 10, nor above Cristian Mijares in any of these lists. Mijares also is a cemented top 10, very shocked to see him lower than Guzman, Calderon and Abraham?:huh
1-Pac 2-Joe 3-Cotto 4-Pavlik 5-JM Marquez 6-Iggy Vazquez 7-R. Marquez 8-Mosley 9-Wlad :hi: 10-Mijares 20- Haye:yep 200- Scam Cheater :yep :yep
should be= 1)pac 2)calzaghe 3)cotto 4)pavlik 5)vazquez 6)jmm 7)hopkins 8)marquez 9)klitschko 10)calderon
#1. Pacquiao #2. Calzaghe #3. J.M Marquez #4. Hopkins #5. Vasquez #6. Cotto #7. Mijares #8. R. Marquez #9. Pavlik #10. Calderon