Top 10 PPV buy rates in 2010

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  1. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really.
     
  2. Rudyard

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    No, they show some free events on spike.
     
  3. the_truth

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    Incredible numbers by boxing, with all the bs going on with promoters. Showtime and HBO hating each other, the ducking by some fighters. Events being thrown the same dates or a week after. Boxing will forever be the number 1!!!:good
     
  4. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Except the fact that its already number two.
     
  5. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All combat sports are in a terrible depression in Japan. The market is hidieous.

    Boxing is healthy in Germany. And can do big number in the UK with the right fighter. The far east produces many good fighters but I don't see any evidence that its setting the world alight in terms of money.

    The UFC is much bigger than boxing in North America. Is starting to grow in Mexico and has significant untapped potential in Brazil.
     
  6. Flyin Ryan

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    Canada. When the North American PPV numbers come in the highest-rated markets are almost always Canadian. GSP gets 200000 in Canada alone when he fights, which when you consider the Canadian population is 10% of the U.S. population, when you prorate that to the States that'd be equivalent to an American PPV buyrate of 2 million.

    It's huge in Japan, Japanese MMA was bigger than American MMA until 3-4 years ago when the UFC took off, although it's declined the past few years there (boxing has likewise as the Kameda brothers aren't drawing as good as they used to).

    The UFC's made a big effort in Britain and there's a growing fanbase there although what they really need for Britain is to have a British star become champion. Their first shot at this was Dan Hardy who lost to GSP but in a respectable manner, but then got KO'd by American fighter Carlos Condit on their last English card in what was meant to be a showcase fight for Hardy to his home fans. Michael Bisping is big for the Brits but he's not championship material.

    Europe in general is kind of an earlier stage of Britain for the UFC. There's no MMA promotion big on the European scene really, although kickboxing (which is MMA minus the grappling game) is big in a lot of European countries, especially the Netherlands.

    The two cards held in Australia they sold out in minutes. And unlike Britain the Aussies may have a potential champion on offer in George Sotiropoulos at lightweight.

    Brazil produces a lot of fighters, although I think jiu jitsu as an individual martial art is bigger than MMA there. There are some decent regional promotions like Bitetti and Jungle Fight. UFC is running a card in Rio in August that'll use a lot of their Brazilian fighters.
     
  7. HENDO

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    And where is Lesnar now?
     
  8. Flyin Ryan

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    fighting Junior dos Santos in June and will be on Spike's show The Ultimate Fighter hyping the fight for two months
     
  9. RSBonos

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    A lot of 'hype' when it comes to worldwide MMA while worldwide boxing which is far larger gets ignored because 'North America is the big market' mindset, and it's not like MMA dwarfs boxing in America or Canada either. They are both niche sports with dedicated fanbases.

    You gotta love when MMA fans go on about their worldwide expansion when the UFC, which is the only show that can sell, can only run 1-2 shows a year in those countries. But lets not forget that MMA will soon win the hearts of the Chinese and Indians pffff.
     
  10. El Lucho

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    ufc made at the very top 1.100.000 with lesnar vs velasquez, which even st pierre vs silva wouldnt top.

    if we talk mayweather vs pacquiao, than we are talking about ~ 3 too 3.500.000 million buys.

    boxing > mma
     
  11. Flyin Ryan

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    That's not true at all. Up until 2006...2007, the largest MMA promotion was in Japan and it could sell out the Tokyo Dome. It's declined now, but you still have 3 or 4 promotions in Japan that can sell large number of tickets.

    In the U.S. you have Strikeforce which usually sells 8-10k for their shows (see Chad Dawson or Andre Berto do that :lol:). And even these niche regional shows can make a decent buck. One promoter near me did a show at where the local NHL team plays using nothing but local guys that weren't big stars and he was able to get a crowd of 5000 for it.

    If you want to include kickboxing as kinda MMA, that's pretty big in Europe, especially the Netherlands.
     
  12. RSBonos

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    Dream probably won't be on TV again, or any MMA for that matter in Japan on the big channels. The ratings are bombing and they have piggy backed off boxing shows to boost them.

    Don't talk like MMA is mainstream while boxing is non-existent in N.A. I know what goes on, so take your propaganda somewhere else. I can list plenty of large boxing crowds that have taken place in 2010 in the US and Canada. In the end they are about the same level with the UFC having convinced a few more hundred thousand people to buy monthly PPVs. They are both tiny insignificant sports in the mainstream outside 2 big names in both sports.

    I can list lots of countries where boxing takes place and MMA isn't even a blip on the radar. Even in the 'new' UFC markets of Britain and Australia boxing is larger, same goes for Japan. Brazil and Canada (outside of Quebec, where boxing is very popular) were never known as boxing countries.

    Oh yeah, I forgot...MMA will take over...the prophecy will come true when people open their eyes...and so on, right?
     
  13. nip102

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    MMA is struggling in japan near dead
     
  14. Rudyard

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    I thought he was thinking of retiring???:patsch Glad to see he's fighting a tough young contender (dangerous contender!
     
  15. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The numbers don't lie, dont get fool by Dana White with his phony numbers and talk. Boxing is a world sport with history that not even the most popular MMA guy has which I believe has less than 5 or 6 fights under his belt:lol: If anything MMA should thank WWE for sending there stars over.