Gushiken was a very well rounded boxer, though he excelled at putting the pressure on and finishing the fight when the opportunity arose. He could fight off the backfoot and counter very well also. Just as good as someone like Lopez IMO.
I haven't seen as much off Gushiken as you, but as good as Lopez? As good as Lopez? Who do you think was better out of Gushiken and Watanabe?
Yes, as good as Lopez, who I feel is more overrated than underrated. I'd say Gushiken and Watanabe were on the same plane, edge to Gushiken on his workrate and versatility.
I agree with that, but I still think Lopez is the better of the two. But you've given me some homework based upon this.
I'm semi-surprised at the lack of depth among southpaws. I mean, these are all good names, but you'd get endless amounts of criticism for having someone like Bert Lytell in their top 10 (or even 20) ATGs.
Lytell was a cracking fighter. And only a small percentage of people are left handed. And many of those guys were converted.
Why is that? Lytell was an excellent fighter, one of the underrated greats of the Black Murderer's Row who beat such fighters as Charley Burley, Holman Williams, Cocoa Kid, Jose Basora, Henry Hall, Oakland Billy Smith, etc. I don't understand the criticism.
Having seen a number of Gushiken's fights years ago on the syndicated Cavalcade of Boxing program hosted by Sam Bass and Harold Lederman, I completely agree with this. (Lederman thought Gushiken was the P4P best in the world.)
I haven't seen enough Gushiken, but i have been very impressed with Watanabe's skills, and that was exactly what impressed me about him, the skills, great. Just to enter a not obvous one that isnt in the thread yet, i always liked watching Casamayor, not the great that some of these others have been, but by far one of the best of his era, class.