Top 100 ATG - (My Personal List)

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    two guys tied a 30
     
  2. ninebar

    ninebar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, A Typo, Told you i was struggling.:D
     
  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    just a quick thought...how would you adjust the rankings of pac, MAB and EM jus in case manny pacquiao losses via KO to hatton
     
  4. ninebar

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    MAB and Morales stay where they are on Merit.


    I Hadn't thought about Pac losing to Hatton.
     
  5. asero

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    my main reason why i put MAB and EM in the top 85 is because i put pacquiao at 32...if pacquiao losses to hatton then i would have to put MAB and EM in the 92-96 spot..pacquiao slips to 50-60
     
  6. WhataRock

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    He knocked out Salvidar...Who is a HOF fighter.

    Guys like Medel and Legra are worthy of HOF if blokes like Zaragoza and McGuigan are...So I dont put to much emphasis on it, the HOF is losing creditibility IMO with there glaring omissions and often bizarre admissions.
     
  7. asero

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    saldivar is way way pass his prime..
     
  8. WhataRock

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    He is however a HOF fighter..which you seem to put a lot of emphasis on.

    If you think Jofre is overrated for not beating a HOF fighter than surely you would have to reconsider that now I have pointed out he has.
     
  9. asero

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    it's just sad that his career defining win came against saldivar...we all know that saldivar is not that same after the 2 year lay off...still, in the top 50 ATG, he is the one with the weakest set of victims
     
  10. WhataRock

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    First of all no one thinks Saldivar is his career defining win..It is what it is, he beat a near shell of Vincente but it must be said Eder was not at his best either. I only brought that up to point out that Jofre had indeed beaten a HOF
    If you think that Salvidar is his career defining win just because he is the only guy Jofre beat who is in the HOF (Im havent even checked if that the case yet anyway) than it shows how much of a misguided emphasis you put on whether or not a fighter makes it into the HOF.

    Im not so sure you can definitively say that he has the weakest set of victims. There is enough film and resources to gauge how good his opponants were and that can not be said of evey great fighter.
     
  11. asero

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    just look at that list of your top 50 and you would agree with me...jofre has the weakest set of opponents..it is not his fault.. i rank him higher at 33 not because of his accomplishment in his era but because of timeliness..up to now he is the best bantamweight ever..notice make a separate criteria for timeliness and contribution to the growth of boxing(20%) and accomplishment (80%)
     
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    I think this is one of the best I've seen. It looks, for the most part, very balanced and well though-through. I do get the sense, though, that there is a bit of a slant towards heavyweights; in my opinion, Jack Johnson is considerably too high, Lennox Lewis much too high, maybe Dempsey a little high, and the Ali and Louis placements are questionable. Personally, I would have guys like Fitzsimmons and Monzon a little higher than you do, as well, but I don't think your placements are unreasonable.
     
  14. asero

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    HW are rank high because of the historical significance of their career...plus, they are timeless..there is more to the heavyweights than resume