Top 100 of All-time 2011

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by TBooze, Jan 26, 2011.


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  1. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dude let me ask you again where in the hell is Olivares? and while im at it Barrera,Morales and yes Marquez.
     
    anarci, Jan 27, 2011
    anarci, Jan 27, 2011
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  2. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Apologies if I missed them but there appears to be no Fighting Harada {beat Jofre twice}, Packey McFarland {has a win over Freddie Welsh, only lost one fight out of over a hundred}, Jack Britton {beat Ted Kid Lewis a few times and Benny Leonard, some say he had the most world title fights ever }, LM Rodriguez {has a win over Emile Griffith} and Joe Calzaghe {who beat Bernard Hopkins and won every pro fight he had}.
    For me DLH and Lopez both too high, well done on the list, we dont see enough of them on here.:good
     
    trampie, Jan 27, 2011
    trampie, Jan 27, 2011
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  3. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Olivares is 62nd

    Barrera was on my mind, I had him in there in 2003, but I think his work is less appreciated now a days.

    I never quite saw the fuss with Morales, he had a few fun fights, but in my mind was always in the shadow of Barrera.

    Marquez has streaked well, and I think might find a place in due course.
     
    TBooze, Jan 27, 2011
    TBooze, Jan 27, 2011
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  4. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Harada was a genius and I felt the list needed another Far East fighter, I plumped for Chang in the end.

    Jack Britton was on the list in 2003. Another unfashionable fighter with limited information, and although perhaps the equal to Kid Lewis, Ted is more iconic, which helped get him a place.

    McFarland is another one I am so tempted to put on there, but like a Pedlar Palmer, Plimmer, Ben Jordan or Lavigne, I just do not think I know enough to place them properly.
     
    TBooze, Jan 27, 2011
    TBooze, Jan 27, 2011
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  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Buchanan, like Benny Lynch was loved for his ordinariness as a person, but with a talent for boxing that is probably unsurpassed in Britain post World War II.

    I would agree with Arcel though, that the classic upright European style did ultimately cost him against the very best.

    If he had been brought up in the States, I suspect the only blemishes on his record pre 76 would of been Duran, but he would of taken at least one of a three fight series off the Panamanian.
     
    TBooze, Jan 27, 2011
    TBooze, Jan 27, 2011
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  6. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thanks for the reply.
    fair enough its all about opinions this is one i am going to get it in the neck for but for me berg has the better wins and if the two could meet in a time machine match i think berg at least wins one in a three fight series
     
    Mr Butt, Jan 27, 2011
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  7. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You might wanna do some looking into on McFarland, Booze. Well worth a high placing. Pay no heed to the pushing for the Mexican trio, though.:cool:
     
    El Bujia, Jan 27, 2011
    El Bujia, Jan 27, 2011
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  8. D.T

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    Dude, what the ****?

    JIMMY MCLARNIN at 53?

    His resume is like 99% full of Hall of Famers that he beat. He is EASILY Top 20, probably Top 15.

    But 53??

    You know nothing my friend (said with the best of intentions).
     
    D.T, Jan 27, 2011
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  9. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Give it a rest mate.
     
    Boro chris, Jan 27, 2011
    Boro chris, Jan 27, 2011
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  10. D.T

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    You know why Ali is greater than Louis?
    Win vs Frazier x2
    Win vs Foreman
    Win vs Norton x2
    Win vs Patterson x2
    Win vs Liston x2
    Win vs Moore
    Win vs Foster (Bob)
    Win vs Shavers
    Win vs Quarry x2
    Win vs Lyle
    Win vs Bugner
    Win vs Foster (Mac)
    Win vs Spinks
    Win vs Chuvalo x2
    Win vs Terrell
    Win vs Bonavena
    Win vs Folley
    Win vs Williams
    Win vs Young
    Win vs Ellis
     
    D.T, Jan 27, 2011
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  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never really appreciated McLarnin until I read a book on Barney Ross, and realised the error of my ways. McLarnin thus has jumped 42 places up my list, I think only Manny has done better, this time round.
     
    TBooze, Jan 27, 2011
    TBooze, Jan 27, 2011
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  12. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canizales is growing on me, I used to think his stats were cheap, but as time goes by, I start to recognize the impressively long prime he had.

    Tapia's demons stumped his career. But he rebounded well, and I am sucker for a redemption story! But that said, I do not think Johnny did enough to warrant serious consideration for the list.
     
    TBooze, Jan 27, 2011
    TBooze, Jan 27, 2011
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  13. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A bio on McLarnin is being released this month. Give it a look. I'm sure Jimmy will hop up many spots on your list after you do :smoke
     
    Surf-Bat, Jan 27, 2011
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  14. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    The real mexican trio was Herrera, Castillo and Rudkin anyway.

    None of this Morales, Barrera, Marquez nonsense.
     
    lora, Jan 27, 2011
    lora, Jan 27, 2011
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  15. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Just too stiff i tell you;).


    I prefer the best overall technical punchers as the ones who can throw all the punches properly and are capable of mixing it up effectively on a consistent basis.Lopez is too concerned with throwing properly and rigidly allll the time.Still, he's up there in the top echelon no doubt.Nonetheless i'd like to have seen him march right in and annihilate his opponent with a torrent of clubbing, chopping hooks and overhand rights once in a while.
     
    lora, Jan 27, 2011
    lora, Jan 27, 2011
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