Top 100 welterweights according to Goldman

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Here is Goldman's Top 100 Welterweights of all time


    • Ray Robinson
    • Ray Leonard
    • Jose Napoles
    • Thomas Hearns
    • Wilfred Benitez
    • Emile Griffith
    • Jimmy McLarnin
    • Luis Rodriguez
    • Mike Gibbons
    • Billy Graham
    • Jack Britton
    • Kid Gavilan
    • Ted “Kid” Lewis
    • Joe Walcott
    • Donald Curry
    • Tommy Ryan
    • Harry Lewis
    • Dixie Kid
    • Carmen Basilio
    • Eddie Perkins
    • Marlon Starling
    • Young Corbett III
    • Lloyd Honeyghan
    • Mark Breland
    • Johnny Bratton
    • Willie Lewis
    • Jimmy Gardner
    • Matty Matthews
    • Jimmy Clabby
    • Young Jack Thompson
    • Ceferino Garcia
    • Pipino Cuevas
    • Dave Shade
    • Simon Brown
    • Mike Glover
    • Fritzie Zivic
    • Carlos Palomino
    • Tommy Bell
    • Mike “Twin” Sullivan
    • Lou Broulliard
    • Curtis Cokes
    • Gaspar Ortega
    • Tommy Freeman
    • Felix Wouters
    • Mysterious Billy Smith
    • Jackie Fields
    • Cyclone Johnny Thompson
    • James (Rube) Ferns
    • Benny Paret
    • Joe Dundee
    • Pete Latzo
    • Honey Mellody
    • Milton McCrory
    • Angel Espada
    • John H. Stracey
    • Don Jordan
    • Johnny Griffiths
    • Virgil Akins
    • Tony DeMarco
    • Johnny Saxton
    • Marty Servo
    • Jimmy Jones
    • Soldier Bartfield
    • Kid Graves
    • Izzy Jannazzo
    • Gil Turner
    • Cocoa Kid
    • Georgie Ward
    • Johnny Indrissano
    • Robert Villemain
    • Hedgemon Lewis
    • Stanley (Kitten) Hayward
    • Charles Humez
    • Gyspy Joe Harris
    • Tommy West
    • Freddie “Red” Cochrane
    • Ernie Lopez
    • Charley Fusari
    • Tom McCormack
    • Jack Carroll
    • Armando Muniz
    • Pete Ranzany
    • Paddy Duffy
    • Frank Mantell
    • Ernie Rodrick
    • Clyde Gray
    • Jack Hood
    • Gustav Eder
    • Willie Luddick
    • Jean Josselin
    • Adolph Pruitt
    • Denny Moyer
    • Charlie Shipes
    • Kid Azteca
    • Harold Weston Jr.
    • Eddie Connolly
    • Brian Curvis
    • Jimmy Doyle
    • Waldemar Holberg
    • Chuck Davey
     
    Mendoza, Mar 28, 2009
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  2. McGrain

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    No Burley at all?

    Hearns #4?
     
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  3. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mendoza,
    Is this a new list? Where did you find it?...and WHERE is Burley???
     
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I have about 100 of these lists archived. I'll post a new one every now and then. I have no idea where Burley is. Maybe middle?
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Burley had a lot of "over the weight" type matches fighting at 148, 149 etc., if you were being strict you could exclude a lot of his best wins, yeah?

    But even strict criteria would give him wins over Cocoa Kid and Jimmy Leto. Beat Zivic at 147 and a half though, so you can leave that one off if you want! It's about criteria.

    Still, though, is his 147 resume worse than Hearns, who makes #4? And if you include over the weight matches, he buries Hearns. And if he's not better than Hearns h2h (he is for me), they are still in the same class...odd. Maybe an oversight.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    Maybe he only rates fighters at one weight.
     
    McGrain, Mar 28, 2009
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  7. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd like to see the middleweight list, if you post it sometime. Thx.
    Yeah, problably only one fighter per division.
     
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  8. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    No Armstrong?No Burley? What the hell.
     
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  9. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No Ross, McLarin either. How can he rank Chuck Davy over them?
     
    Dempsey1238, Mar 28, 2009
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  10. Rebel-INS

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    Lloyd Honeyghan is very high......
     
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  11. McGrain

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    This list is giving me a ****ing spaz attack!
     
    McGrain, Mar 28, 2009
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Honeyghan just two spots behind Starling and 11 ahead of Brown is interesting.
     
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  13. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't see Henry Armstrong in that top 100. Too bad, it was not that bad until I saw Hearns at number 4.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    Hearns at 4 is a bit better than Benitez at 5!!!!

    :yep
     
    JohnThomas1, Mar 28, 2009
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  15. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    I believe that list is from the early 90s, he had many lists in Boxing Illustrated during that time frame
     
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