Top 13 h2h heavyweights in history

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by JAB5239, Nov 29, 2012.


  1. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I understand these excuses but an excuse can't change the facts.
    1. W. Klitschko has 3 brutal ko losses(Puritty,Sanders( a second r. ko loss),Brewster.
    2. W. Klitschko isn't/wasn't undisputed champion.
    He's belt-holder and champion but a HALF-CHAMPION.
    I say an example this similar when a soccer team wins the european championship.But this isn't a world cup win.The world cup win is much
    more bigger glory.Sorry but this is the situation.

    The Ring is just a magazine without sport value.Everybody can write
    a magazine.A magazine/journalist opinion isn't important in the sport.
    Don't buy this magazine ! Don't waste your money !
    Who's the top heavy? Nobody knows a correct definition.This is
    a subjective thing.I think Puritty was better heavy obviously he destroyed
    wladimir.Everybody has an opinion.
    I prefer the facts.
    The classic longevity=undefeated and undisputed champion.
    The first loss destroys the classic longevity because this proves the fighter
    wasn't unbeatable.
    This is objective because some eras are very weak.
    I say an example.A soccer team wins 100 albanian championships but
    another is once time spanish champion. The spanish championship is
    bigger thing than the albanian.
     
  2. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You don't understand. I enjoy wladimir's carrier because i am big
    fan of his losses.These were very laughable.I hope he wanna
    continue his carrier.
    The Puritty-wladimir was so funny when this fat bum Puritty chased
    the lanky klitschko and knocked out him.Hmmm... nice.
     
  3. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Oh, congratulations you called Wlad/Leapai right. I don't know how you managed that. That totally makes up for you completely dropping the ball after such passionate campaigns for Pulev and Povetkin.

    Will you go on the records and predict Wlad/Jennings? It's easy to call, and will help pad your numbers.

    "K2 want no part of Fury . That much is almost certain now."

    So will you be willing to welch a bet on Fury/Wlad going down? :lol:
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're quite the passionate boxing fan I see.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Johnson, Dempsey, Louis,… all had had KO losses earlier in their careers. Let's spread the net a little wider. Hopkins lost his very first fight. Greb lost two of his first eight, KO2 by Chip… arguably the greatest fighter ever. Sam Langford, another contender for greatest fighter ever, lost at least 5 fights before 23… 2 by KO. Benny Leonard KO'd in his first fight, another top 15 ATG fighter. Mickey Walker, another top 25 ATG, KO'd in his 8th fight.

    In reverse perspective, by the age Wlad began putting together an 8 year undefeated streak as the greatest heavy on the planet, Dempsey would be going 1-2 over the rest of his career, Tyson went 10-6, Frazier 3-4-1. Yet, Waldo goes 21-0 with 15 stoppages facing top challengers almost exclusively. Do you understand the idea of differing career arcs? Do you need me to translate to your native tongue in this matter?

    Wlad has been recognized by every reputable source as the best heavy for at least 6 years. You are an outlier to disagree with this. Please let us all know if that is because you are just more enlightened than the rest of us.

    And for how long was Larry Holmes the unified/undisputed champ? Were Jim Jeffries, Jack Johnson and Jack Johnson undisputed when they clearly drew the color line on certain fighters? Was Mike Tyson not the best heavyweight before beating Spinks? Was Lennox Lewis not the best heavyweight before 1999? If you believe in the fairy tale of undisputed in this age, there is little hope for ye...

    No everyone can't. You are Exhibit A.

    Ring Magazine, as much as I have had disputations with them in the past, is a guardian of the sport, a status gained over decades, not invented in by an illiterate keyboard warrior.
     
  6. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    - You are ridicolous.Everybody has sovereign opinion you behave
    like ass-licker.It's a shame . The Ring Magazine is just a magazine
    i think lots of man around world don't worship them.
    Everybody has choice.That's all.Everybody can live without the
    Ring Magazine.I don't know only one man who wanna cry for this
    magazine.

    - Fact is fact:wladimir Klitschko isn't unbeaten and undisputed champion. The Ring Mag. or a klit**** can't change this fact.

    He's just a HALF-CHAMPION.
    Lewis/Holyfield/Tyson were undisputed champions.
    Funny these klit****s can't respect the great champions
    because their amazing wladimir beat Povetkin or Haye and other
    bums.
     
  7. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    It shame. yes shame shame.

    Like oo say. Ridiceleous.



    This troo too, but somtimes iz nice to lick the azz, no.
    I like wimen with nice BIG Azz heh heh heh



    Iz right.
    IZ jus' a magazine. Just like Penthouse.

    Or Husler or Playboy.

    I like pent haus, I like the forum....

    better than this forum...better stories...

    More exciting than stoopid Ring with theree stoopid opinions



    Iz tru

    But ever body wurship beauteeful women in other magazines, no


    Yu so right !

    you know a lotta stuff.

    Ring no good !


    This laas bit too compleecate for me, my brain.

    But You know lots a stuff so I kno its true


    Waldim iz only half azzed champeen.



    You keep posting

    You know lotta stuff
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I take this horrid mishmash of unintelligible drivel to be a white flag on your part. You could have done it more concisely but I recognize its intent despite that fact.