Top 15 Greatest Heavyweights In History (Please Participate)

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  1. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This list is based on many factors combined together abilty, achievements, longevity and Hd 2 Hd.

    1.Muhammad Ali
    2.Joe Louis
    3.Jack Johnson
    4.Larry Holmes
    5.George Foreman
    6.Sonny Liston
    7.Joe Frazier
    8.Evander Holyfield
    9.Rocky Marciano
    10.Mike Tyson
    11.Lennox Lewis
    12.Ezzard Charles
    13.Sam Langford
    14.Jack Dempsey
    15.Jersey Joe Walcott

    Remember this is based on combined number of factors and is subjective.

    Please all participate and give your reasons for your rankings.
     
    sugarsean, Jan 22, 2010
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  2. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hello Sugarsean, vaguely similar to own the only obvious differences being peak Marciano & Dempsey are my ultimate favourites so they're one and two for me - good to see Charles & Walcott in there -2 of my personal favourites also - but got to say I personally wouldn't have Holyfield or Frazier that high - but hey great list all the same - these lists are always fun to look at - I like getting everybodys opinions on who was the best - good to see Sam Langford included too - any fight with him in would've been fun to see - always imagine him chasing after Ali LOL that would be a good one to see for sure.

    Sometimes when i think about my own list i sometimes struggle because sometimes i think in a head to head sense sometimes say number 12 might give everyone above him better fights style-wise than say number 5 or whatever - is there anyone in particular on your list where this sprung to mind for you? oh and who is your favourite fighter just to watch?
     
    RockysSplitNose, Jan 22, 2010
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  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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  4. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fighters That Would Be Rated Higher If It Was A Hd 2 H2 List
    Well I think Frazier V Louis is a 50-50 fight for one example and I think Foreman is top 3 when it come to Hd 2 Hd and I think Ezzard Charles is a stylistic nightmare for anyone.That just a few example if there's any other fighters in particular that you would like to know my opinion on where they would rate Hd 2 Hd I would gladly give you my opinion.

    Favourite Heavyweights To Watch
    Evander Holyfield, Jersey Joe Walcott, Joe Louis, Larry Holmes, Muhammad Ali, Joe Fraizer.
     
    sugarsean, Jan 22, 2010
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Decent list .
    Factoring in longevity ,
    Frazier and Tyson are too high ,imo.
    Lewis is a lock for the top ten ,imo, probably 9 or 10 .
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    Head to Head ,I have Dempsey way up there ,but ,that is a personal anomaly.
    Langford? I see him more as an ATG LH.
    Maybe the right names ,just in a different order,possibly Jeffries makes the 15?.Removing Langford ,for the reason given?
    Tunney is problematical ,very thin resume at the weight, but outside the 15?
     
    mcvey, Jan 22, 2010
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  6. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1.But with the other factors included its a fair rating

    2.I know I said the same thing in my mind but then when I had made it he just misses out of my top ten of my list.

    3.Langford was avoided by everyone and even Jack Dempsey said that Langford would have defeated him hence why they never fought and yes he was not a natural heavyweight but he was beating most of the best heavyweights of his era .
     
    sugarsean, Jan 23, 2010
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  7. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree I don't usally rate fighters that there is very little footage of but there is quite a bit of footage of Johnson and Dempsey and Langford looks very impressive in the footage that there is of him, that plus his record, with regards to Tyson a number 10 rating is fair he can't be placed any higher because he did'nt do enough but being number 10 is still an amazing achievement given its history.
     
    sugarsean, Jan 23, 2010
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  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You can basically justify or pick apart almost any list. From your list the rankings I would generally disagree with :

    TOO LOW: Lennox Lewis, Jim Jeffries, Harry Wills

    TOO HIGH: Jack Johnson, Ezzard Charles


    Other than that, I wouldn't argue with you. Our 1, 2, 7 and 9 are identical, or nearly.
     
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  9. punchy

    punchy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis is too low he defeated everyone he faced and half the division running scared, look at Bowe, he also never ducked anyone except Ruiz.
     
    punchy, Jan 23, 2010
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  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Swap Lewis and Johnson around, swap Liston with Holyfield......

    Other than that no real complaints.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Jan 23, 2010
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  11. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Louis, Ali
    3. Marciano, Holmes, Johnson, Jeffries, Lewis
    8. Foreman, Frazier, Liston, Holyfield
    12. Patterson, Dempsey, Schmeling, Tyson
     
    bodhi, Jan 23, 2010
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  12. nahkis

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    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Rocky Marciano
    4. Larry Holmes
    5. Jack Johnson

    From here on it becomes hell trying to rank them. Holyfield, Tunney, Dempsey, Jeffries, Tyson, Lewis, Foreman, Frazier would be my 6-13, not in order. Sonny Liston grabs the 14th place and the 15th ill give to Harry Willis.
     
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  13. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do not have a fair amount of knowledge to compose a list of the 15 greatest of all time. However i do believe Ali is the no.1 greatest. I think the fact that the casual fanbase and general public have elevated him to god status leads many hardcore boxing fans to rate him lower than he actually is. Although alot of us still rate him no.1, but all should recognise. His who's who of victories, his longevity, the best chin bar NONE in history(including Lamotta). H2H primes, the only boxer i would give a 50% chance is Lennox Lewis and i honestly thing he'd cause a referee stoppage over prime Tyson about rounds 8 to 10
     
    Pachilles, Jan 23, 2010
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  14. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One thing is for sure Max Schmeling and Floyd Patterson are trrible underated on here.
     
    bodhi, Jan 23, 2010
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  15. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Schmeling is more like a top 20 guy, not quiet top 15. Patterson would be top 25, perhaps top 20. I dont think either of them should be in the top 15 though.
     
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