top 15 HEAVYWEIGHTS 1980/89

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  1. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im picking them by their fights in this decade and their boxing level

    1-Mike Tyson t berbick- j Smith- p thomas-t tucker-l holmes- - t tubbs – m spinks –f Bruno – c williams

    2-Larry Holmes t berbick- g ****ey- r cobb- c williams- l spinks – r snipes- t witherspoon – j smith-c Williams

    3-Tim Witherspoon r snipes- j tillis- g page-j smith- t tubbs- f bruno

    4-Pinklon Thomas j tillis- t witherspoon- m weaver

    5-Trevor Berbick g page- j tate- p thomas

    6-Tony Tubbs g page – j smith

    7-Greg Page j tillis- r snipes- g Coetzee

    8-James Smith f Bruno- m weaver- t witherspoon

    9-Tony Tucker j douglas

    10-Evander Holyfield m dokes- p thomas

    11-Mike Weaver j tate – g coetzie – j tillis- b Mercado- c Williams

    12-Gerry ****ey k Norton- e lopez

    13-James Douglas r cobb- g page- o mccall-

    14-Michael Spinks l holmes- g ****ey

    15- Michael Dokes m weaver

    Others possibilities : Randall Cobb, Gerrie Coetzie, Renaldo Snipes, Carl Williams, Frank Bruno, James Tillis,etc...
     
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  2. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson
    Holmes
    Thomas
    Witherspoon
    Weaver
    Page
    Tubbs
    Coetzee
    Dokes
    Berbick
    Michael Spinks
    Tucker
    C00ney
    Holyfield
    Bonecrusher
     
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  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tucker
    Smith
    Thomas
    Witherspoon
    Berbick
    Tubbs
    Orlin Norris
    Mark Wills
    David Bey
    Snipes


    Douglas
    Holyfield
    Bruno
    Page
    M Green


    J Broad
    D Collier
    J Tillis
    J Ribalta
    G Coetzee


    M White
    J Ferguson
    M Williams
    C Williams
    M Spinks


    M Dokes
    M Weaver
     
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  4. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Orlin and bey had good wins.. good job
     
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  5. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    - You used C. Williams in Holmes's case two times.
    - I think you overrate these Tillis wins.
    You used these Tillis wins several times this prove these wins weren't remarkable things.(Seemingly every decent fighter beat him.)
    - Leon Spinks isn't good win at all.(Big name but he was ****.)
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    I have it

    Tier 1

    Holmes
    Tyson
    Witherspoon

    ------ After that its gets harder.

    Tier 2

    Thomas
    Tubbs
    C00ney
    Tucker
    Page
    Spinks
    Weaver
    Holyfield
    Coetzee
    Dokes
    J. Smith
    Berbick
     
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  7. mr. magoo

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    1. Tyson
    2. Holmes
    3. Witherspoon
    4. Weaver
    5. Berbick
    6. Thomas
    7. Dokes
    8. Tubbs
    9. Smith
    10 Spinks
    11. Tucker
    12. Holyfield

    EXPLANATION: Michael Spinks and Evander Holyfield weren't ranked too high on my list due to their limited participation in the division during that time frame. Tony Tucker's only win of note in the 80's was over Douglas and that victory only rose in stock years later due to Buster's eventual upset of Tyson, which I can't give points for hindsight value. Tyson is #1 for me in the 80's. While I rank Larry Holmes higher on an all time list, Tyson Unified the crown, dominated the division and became the youngest champion, while Holmes had less fights, didn't unify, was stripped of a belt and lost three times in the decade. Tim Witherspoon makes my #3 by virtue of winning two alpha titles, giving Holmes fits in only his 16th pro bout and beating many of his peers like Tubbs, Page, Smith, Tillis, Broad, Snipes, Bruno, etc... The rest who fall in the middle are interchangeable depending on one's criteria.
     
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  8. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you are right that i used twice c williams in l holmes record.
    i dont overrate tillis he was a top contender in the 80 and leon wasnt bad i rate him over the likes of le douux,l jones,r snipes,etc...
     
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  9. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    100 % agree with you except that i dont rank doke too high. he doesnt have good victories and he was limited.. In both of weaver fights weaver was robbed.
     
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  10. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pinklon and mike weaver were underdogs in their fight with tillis.
    I know that tillis was a bit overrated at this point.
     
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  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Fair enough
     
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  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Page should be on there.
     
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  13. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Leon some 80's losses:
    -Holmes Ltko3
    -DeLeon Ltko6
    -Qawi Ltko6
    -Sekorski Ltko6
    -Ribalta Ltko1
    -Musone Lko7
    -Mims(13-15-0) Lsd10
    I think you must be a big Leon fan.:roll:
     
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  14. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im not a leon fan, but he has some good wins too, like mercado,evangelista or an aging ali .
    He was past his prime in almost all this loses maybe except holmes
     
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  15. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    - Ali's biggest problem was his health not his age and obviously Ali was
    past his prime.

    Past his prime=loss by a (13-15-0) fighter ?
    2-3 decent wins collection isn't a big thing every bum has chance for some good wins.(Puritty-W. klitschko is the best example)
     
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