Top 15 middleweights of all time

The sum of his career so far.

The specific scalps are: Ouma, Proksa, Rosado, Macklin, Stevens, Geale, Rubio, Murray, Lemieux, Brook, Jacobs, Alvarez.

The performances against the long list of ranked opposition over a period of 7 years are enough to show me that he'd be competitive with any MW in history and actually, for me would be favoured over many MW fighters throughout history.

People I'd favour over him who've fought at MW: Robinson, Jones, Hagler, Charles, Burley, Moore.

Unsure about Duran and Hearns. Monzon, Hopkins are also guys with an excellent shot of beating him.

Further down the list of greats someone like Apostolic or LaMotta can certainly give him hell because they would spend all fight trying to force him on the back foot.

But the long and short of it as as far as MW fighters go he's one of the best I've ever seen. I don't feel the need to convince others but I'll happily give my reasons.

I do think Ward ranks higher as does Gonzalez, Pacquiao and Mayweather from modern times. Maybe Lomachenko, Crawford, Garcia, Joshua, Canelo will overtake him when all is said and done.

 

So basically, a top 10 MW, even if in the lower reaches. I can see that.

 

Depends on criteria of ranking I guess.
For me I only rank a fighter in one weight class so Robinson, Jones, Charles, Moore are all guys I rank in other divisions. Same with Duran and Hearns as well.

Which leaves Hagler and Burley as MW fighter I rank higher than him.

 

Which division do you rank Greb in ?

 

I haven't really pedantically gone through MW rankings to weigh folks up. I just feel that he's probably top 10 somewhere and definitely top 15. If GGG unifies and breaks Hopkins' record, his case is going to be pretty strong.

 

I found it almost impossible to rank Greb and I'm still not really happy about ranking him at all.

In the end I told myself I was reasonably convinced he was a superior fighter to Tunney. So wherever I ranked Tunney p4p I felt confident placing Greb one place higher.

I have Tunney number 38, which means I can have Greb number 37.

That placing has him number 6.

My biggest issues at MW are classing Burley as a MW which means he's number 2 and ranking Greb who I've never seen fight.

 

I ranked some ATG guys p4p and used that to determine their divisional rankings.

 

Beats any MW fighter in history , yet got a gift against Jacobson , a draw against Canelo and his currently ducking his mando with 12 -0 Dchenko..lol..Thats funny

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Whats so good about those names minus Danny and Canelo ?

Are they better than the best names King Arthur beat? I don't think so

Aurthur's scalps - Kofi Juntah , Edison Miranda , Howard Eastman , Jermain Taylor , Robert Stigleitz , Paul Smith , Martin Murray.

 

I'm not convinced Hopkins deserves a top 10 or 15 ranking at middleweight either.

 

Yet, Dino still fails reading comprehension and still invents strawmen like its going out of fashion.

Sure it wasn't Jacobssen?
Or maybe Johnson?
Or could it have been Jockson?

Yes. Fixed it.

 

Laszlo' Papp at number five,2 places above Robinson, just has to be trolling!
Like wise Paul Pender at 12 ,above Walker,Tiger, Zale, Giardello, to name just a few ,indefensible!
Carter above Giardello?
Steele at 64! Apostoli at66! Yet Scholz makes 56?
Minter above Burley, Williams,Steele Apostoli,Papke,Valdez,Benn etc?
Nonsensical.

 

My list but have not worked out the rankings ..

Charles
Monzon
Robinson
Greb
Jones
Hagler
Burley
Nunn
Hopkins
Walker
LaMotta
Steele
Toney
McCallum
Fitz

 

I don't think he beats any MW in history. I didn't think it was a gift against Jacobs. I do think he's ducking SD.

What's so good is the way he performed consistently in a dominant fashion against world ranked opposition. Also no point minusing Jacobs and Canelo those performances are part of the reason I rank him where I do.

If you wanna rate Abraham above Golovkin, feel free to do so. It's your rankings and they should reflect how you feel.

 

k , you're only as good as the best guys you fought imo , therefore i judge him based on how he performed against Jacobs and Canelo.

Also consider he has / had legacy defying fights in front of him and he denied them.