Top 20 H2H heavyweights in history?

Chris Arroela was a higher skilled, Mexican version of Sam Peter.

Vitali absolutely pasted him. There wasn't a single minute when Chris was in that fight. Complete absolute shutout.
The kicker is Vitali was 38 years old. Arroela was 28.
This is undeniable proof that Wlad was overrated.
If he was as good as his sycophants claim , he would have Arroela'd Sam Peter. But he didn't / couldn't.
In fact he performed worse than obese James Toney moving up from MIDDLEWEIGHT

 

No he didn't. Peter was ready to go after the 12th.

The only reason that fight was close was because of the rabbit punching. There was a moment where Peter hit Wlad and he went down, but Wlad dominated all of the other rounds.

 

Rabbit punching? Does Peter have Mister Fantastic arms?
Wlad got clumped to he back of the head cos he was turning his back and running away.

Like this

https://s02.yapfiles.com/files/708906/Wladimir_Klitschko_vs_Alexander_Povetkin_3.gif

He was in survival mode for most of the fight.
Tony lay on the ropes and clowned Peters. First fight clearly went to Toney who was obese and pushing 40

 

What impressed you about Mavrovic that made you think he was so strong? What victories did he have that made you think he's as strong as McCline? The whole myth about this guy is that he easily lasted 12 rounds with a prime Lewis, even though he was already sick and underweight, which forced him to retire. But that says more about Lewis than Mavrovic. Who did Zejlko beat???
You say McCline was like Grant, but in real life, Jameel knocked out Michael in literally one minute!!! And he didn't need any fouls to do it.

 

He was awkward, tough and took every powerpunch from Lewis without going down, Mavrovic thought he was fit to fight and showed it in the ring, but tell me how is this relevant at all ? You claimed Lewis would struggle with bum Jameel McCline because he couldn't KO a tough unbeaten Mavrovic but McCline couldn't even KO Briggs and lost to Calvin Brock !

Tell me how is a big slow punching bag lost to a few journeyman going to be a tough fight for Lewis ? Gary Bell beat this guy and Tua destroyed Gary Bell in a round. He is tailor made for Lewis

Grant was TKO'd via ankle injury, kind of like McCline getting TKO'd by Valuev

 

You know, McCline beat Briggs pretty easily. Lewis did it early, but he struggled early on. McCline was a fast starter. He showed it in the Grant fight.

If the ankle injury defeated Grant, then the eye injury defeated Vito; their opponents probably didn't matter. I saw Jammel pummeling Michael. Not the other way around.

What about Mavrović? He fought quite a long time as an amateur, and for a few years as a pro. What big opponents did he defeat? In which fight did he impress you?

 

Oleksandr Usyk, Vitali Klitschko, Muhammad Ali

Joe Louis, Wladimir Klitschko, Lennox Lewis

Rocky Marciano, Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, Larry Holmes, George Foreman, Evander Holyfield

Tyson Fury, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney

Riddick Bowe, Mike Tyson, Alexander Povetkin, Ken Norton, Anthony Joshua

 

Good thing McCline is easy to hit, a lesser puncher than Briggs and slow. Lewis would knock McCline out easily, he is tailor made for Lewis. Golota tried to start fast and got demolished. He can't outbox Lewis and he would most likely lose a firefight. McCline had a draw with Ron Guerrero and lost to 3 or 4 journeyman, got stopped by a couple of them

Mavrovic looked great against Cantatore despite his lack of top level wins and nobody beat him so you don't know how good Mavrovic was

 

Cantatore?? Please... besides, Zejlko had a terrible start there. Did you really like it? Okay... let's just say Cantatore showed Mavrovic's class

McCline beat Briggs, beat Grant, and was a fast starter. Theoretically, Mercer, who was 1-1 with Ferguson, couldn't beat Marion Wilson, hadn't won a fight in two years, and was overweight, should have been a very easy target for Lewis and any top-tier guy. Theoretically...

Golota was a slow starter, was completely paralyzed against Lewis, and received a million-dollar settlement for a lidocaine injection that put him completely to sleep in the Lewis fight. At what point did you see Golota try to attack Lewis?

 

McCline had a draw with 2 journeymen and lost to Calvin Brock and got schooled by Zuri Lawrence in his prime, was getting outboxed by Valuev before the stoppage and couldnt overcome John Ruiz. Mercer would probably beat McCline. Tua would KO McCline like he KO'd his conquerer Gary Bell

Golota tried to press but wasn't reckless, Lewis kept him on the outside and clinched him before blasting him with a right hand. Go back and rewatch that fight. Grant tried to start fast against Lewis and got wiped out. Starting fast against Lewis won't be successful unless you chin him and McCline is too slow and has bad defense. How much do I have to keep repeating this stuff, the odds favor McCline getting destroyed by Lewis rather than holding his own

 

The younger Mercer drew with Marion Wilson, the older one should have drawn with Lewis. It doesn't work the way you think. McCline defeated Briggs, who caused Lewis a lot of problems early on, and knocked out Grant faster than Lewis. Therefore, it's logical to think he would be a bigger problem for Lewis than Briggs, and even more so for Grant. I don't understand your logic that it's the other way around. Just as I don't understand your admiration for Mavrovic, perhaps you saw something in the Cantatire fight that no one else did. Just like you saw Golota's violent attack, who practically stood like a pillar of salt and landed two anemic punches. He was so frozen that he received a million dollars in compensation for a pre-fight lidocaine injection from his doctor. And you see him attacking quickly... we live in a different world, my friend. I think it's a waste of our time discussing things that simply didn't happen.

 

Briggs was going through a horrible phase in his career when he fought McCline. He fell apart after Botha and pulled it back together right before the Mercer fight.

 

Ironic

It doesn't work the way you think. Styles make fights. McCline couldn't KO Briggs like Lewis did, is way slower than Briggs, doesnt hit as hard as Briggs, dropped decisions to numerous low level fighters that would lose to guys Lewis dominated, couldnt win more than a couple rounds against John Ruiz, and got hit quite a lot. McCline isn't that guy. Anything can happen on a given night but the probability is Lewis destroys him. He is tailor made for Lewis, big slower guy with bad defense who has no chance outboxing Lewis and would get severely outskilled in a fire fight. McCline being better than Grant doesn't mean much Grant got whitewashed by Lewis effortlessly, and stylistically McCline is closer to Grant than anyone Lewis faced

You don't know how good he was because he didn't have any noteworthy wins but was still unbeaten, moderately talented and very tough. That's all we know about him, but I certainly don't see Mavrovic losing to Zuri Lawrence. Also Golota might beat McCline, he's certainly more talented