Top 20 H2H heavyweights in history?

Again, WHAT ABOUT THIER GOOD OPPONENTS?

Not all oppoennts are equal. We are talking about their signature opponents.

Name one high quality opponent 6'4" or better that Wlad beat. Byrd? Peter? Sultan? Chag? Povetkin?

Where are the Ruddocks and Vitalis on his resume?

 

But what good ones that could punch did he beat? Where is his Ruddock? Vitlklit? Bruno?

Waiting.

 

Name one quick footed slick boxer that Lewis beat. This goes both ways lol you're cherry picking.

 

Uh, no. It was my objection to Wlad that he couldn't beat people who physically matched up to him well. If that is your objection to Lewis, you are welcome to it.

Anyway, Terrel Biggs was a good boxer. Tucker. Holy, although I will be the one to say he was past it.

 

Jameel McCline - He's probably the biggest guy Wlad beat that could punch.
Sam Peter - He's not this 6'3 - 6'5 you are looking for, but he was the scariest puncher at the time. If it was anyone but Wlad this would be a great win. Keep in mind that both the guys that KO'd Lewis were roughly the same height (6'2).
David Haye - He is 6'3 with plenty of speed and power.

 

McCline- 58% KO ratio
Peter- 6'2
Haye- Former cruiser

It's just not there. Wlad never really beat anyone who matched up to him well physically. It doesn't make him a bad fighter. It doesn't mean he's not a great. I would think it means that Lewis is better than he is. It's all I'm saying.

 

And plenty of people here showed he beat fighters bigger then him more then Lewis did.

Tucker and Holy weren't slick. He never beat a Byrd, or a Chambers or an Ibragimov. So why are you focusing on the physical thing when we can just as easily say Lewis never beat a southpaw or a slick boxer. Seems like a cherry pick to me

 

But poor fighters. Where are his signature wins against big, physically imposing fighters? Waiting.

I am not going to say that you don't know boxing...you may very well know more than me. But Holy was slick. He always controlled the battle for position. Tucker was very good boxer. Not sure what else to say about it.

I don't think it is cherry picking to point out that a fighter had a skill set that involved them having very real physical advantages. Btu as you like.

 

Why is that the benchmark for a good fighter? And people already listed his win against those kind of fighters and you rejected all of them because it doesn't fit some standard you have.

Holy was more of a forward pushing boxer puncher especially by the time he fought Lewis and Tucker was a long range boxer puncher. Neither was a slick backfooted fighter like what I mentioned.

So did Lewis lol so what's your point?

 

Former cruiser who had the power to ice durable Chisora who was never knocked out like that. Fury and Vitali couldn't do it. Only Whyte managed to after 11 rounds of war and later in his career.

 

How about a single southpaw?

 

That is kind of true I do remember another poster I can't remember who it was.

But we was discussing Bowe/Lewis and I brought up Bowe struggling against Tubbs.

But then he put a good counter point to me and stated.

"Yeah that's true but did Lewis fight any tricky slick quick handed boxers like Tubbs ?"

And when I thought about it that comment was kind of true TBH. I couldn't really think of Lewis fighting any fighters with those attributes.

Not that I'm saying Lewis avoided that type of style but there isn't really a fighter on his resume that does fit the bill in regards to that type of style.

 

The closest fighter that comes to mind is Mavrovic. But he was more awkward than slick and quick footed. Had fast hands tho.

 

Truly slick, quick, HWs are a rarity.

How many have there been that have had success at world level in the c.35 years since Tubbs? Usyk is the obvious example. Other than that, if you stretch the definition of slick, you could perhaps include Haye, Byrd and Chambers. I can't think of any others.

If Haye, Byrd and Chambers qualify as slick and quick, then I think Holyfield does, too, despite his many other considerable attributes meaning he wasn't as reliant on, as or as dedicted a, counter puncher.

Whilst they don't meet my definition for being slick, Akinwande and Vitali were pure out boxers who were awkward and difficult to tag clean, Botha a quick handed, mobile HW, Briggs was light on his feet with quick hands and Mavrovic was a technically sound boxer.

Lewis's resume obviously stands out for the quantity and quality of power punchers, but he did beat a few world level boxer types, too.