Top 20 Lightweights

1) Roberto Duran 2) Benny Leonard 3) Pernell Whitaker 4) Ike Williams 5) Carlos Ortiz 6) Joe Gans 7) Henry Armstrong 8) Lou Ambers 9) Tony Canzoneri 10) Sammy Angott

Very difficult - it's arguably the greatest division of them all. A few things to note; I tend to rate Ross more as a 140 and 147 pounder, and feel his stay at 135 was too brief to include him here. Now, you might say that on that basis, I shouldn't include Armstrong, either. But with Hank, I'm mindful of those early Welterweight title fights, where he came in under the Lightweight limit, spotting weight to his opponents, but still being great enough to beat guys like Ross, Garcia, Arizmendi etc. He arguably deserved to be 2-0 against my #8 guy as well - so despite his very brief (on the record, at least) stay at 135, I feel Armstrong has to be in there.

The rest, I imagine, seems pretty straightforward, perhaps until you get to #10. I have to admit, I ended up being kind of surprised that I had Angott there. He did score a lot of his best wins in non-title bouts, sometimes slightly above the 135 limit...But as these were generally against natural / career Lightweights in any case, I think he can get some leeway for that. In the end, his 3-0 and 2-0 ledger against Montgomery and Ramey swayed me to include him, but if others opted for the likes of Brown, Jack, Arguello, Welsh etc. ahead of him, I wouldn't complain.

 

Carlos was a party animal,,when in shape he was a complete fighter.

 

I have him at 3 just in front of Duran,I think he faced better competition that Roberto.

 

All of them were ranked in the top ten when Grigorian was ranked,he fought NONE of them.
McFarland fought
Gibbons
Britton
Yanger
Cross
Welsh
Hyland
Bronson
Thompson
Moran

Grigorian fought a collection of 2nd raters,he was a protected cheese champion.
39 opponents with 248 losses between them at the time he faced them
As usual.
You don't know WTF you are talking about!

 

Here you are ****y bollocks!
1996
Title Vacant

1. Orzubek Nazarov
2. Philip Holiday
3. Stevie Johnston
4. George Scott
5. Jean-Baptiste Mendy
6. Shane Mosley
7. Leavander Johnson
8. Ivan Robinson
9. John John Molina
10. Artur Grigorian

1997
Title Vacant

1. Orzubek Nazarov
2. Shane Mosley
3. Stevie Johnston
4. Philip Holiday
5. George Scott
6. Azumah Nelson
7. Israel Cardona
8. Jean-Baptiste Mendy
9. Artur Grigorian
10. Cesar Bazan

1998
Title Vacant

1. Shane Mosley
2. Jean-Baptiste Mendy
3. Cesar Bazan
4. Stevie Johnston
5. Israel Cardona
6. Orzubek Nazarov
7. Ivan Robinson
8. Philip Holiday
9. Arturo Gatti
10. Jesse James Leija

1999
Title Vacant

1. Stevie Johnston
2. Angel Manfredy
3. Paul Spadafora
4. Cesar Bazan
5. Ivan Robinson
6. Gilberto Serrano
7. Colin Dunne
8. Artur Grigorian
9. Israel Cardona
10. Stefano Zoff

2000
Title Vacant

1. Jose Luis Castillo
2. Stevie Johnston
3. Paul Spadafora
4. Takanori Hatakeyama
5. Cesar Bazan
6. Angel Manfredy
7. Artur Grigorian
8. Colin Dunne
9. Jesse James Leija
10. Gilberto Serrano

2001
Title Vacant

1. Jose Luis Castillo
2. Stevie Johnston
3. Paul Spadafora
4. Raul Horacio Balbi
5. Angel Manfredy
6. Julio Diaz
7. Artur Grigorian
8. Colin Dunne
9. Jesse James Leija
10. Juan Lazcano

2002
Floyd Mayweather Jr., Champion

1. Jose Luis Castillo
2. Stevie Johnston
3. Paul Spadafora
4. Leonard Dorin
5. Juan Lazcano
6. Angel Manfredy
7. Artur Grigorian
8. Raul Horacio Balbi
9. Alejandro Gonzalez
10. Julien Lorcy

2003
Floyd Mayweather Jr., Champion

1. Juan Lazcano
2. Jose Luis Castillo
3. Leonard Dorin
4. Stevie Johnston
5. Acelino Freitas
6. Javier Jauregui
7. Courtney Burton
8. Artur Grigorian
9. Julien Lorcy
10. Victoriano Sosa

2004
Jose Luis Castillo, Champion

1. Diego Corrales
2. Joel Casamayor
3. Juan Lazcano
4. Julio Diaz
5. Juan Diaz
6. Acelino Freitas
7. Javier Jauregui
8. Artur Grigorian
9. Julien Lorcy
10. Lakva Sim

Now that's shut your stupid face up hasn't it, you moronic ****!!!!

 

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I think you can learn a lot from me, if you open minded to do it.[/QUOTE]

Ahahahahaha hahahahaha oh my I got tears in my eyes reading this. If nothing else you are good entertainment value. Thanks I needed this

 

I feel Crawford would have beaten Rosario based how great he looks at welter, I haven`t sen him at light weight but I`ll have a look on youtube, he`s awesome. Mayweather would have beat Buchanan but never fought anyone near Duran`s level, the Corrales win was a very, very good win though.

 

We have all learned lot from you,and all of it was rubbish!

 

Those lists are the end of year rankings of The Ring Magazine,and they clearly show who was top ten ranked whilst Grigorian was,I picked 25 that Grigorian did not fight but there are more! BTW Grigorian did NOT OFFICIALLY RETIRE until the summer of 2005.He had his last fight on the 11th of September 2004. He then made a comeback in 2009.

2009-02-24 Kirkor Kirkorov
28 21 0
28 21 0

Universum Gym, Wandsbek
W
PTS
6/6

2004-09-11 Vasile Herteg
19 5 0
19 5 0
Kisstadion, Budapest
W
TKO
4/8

2004-01-03 Acelino Freitas
34 0 0
34 0 0
Foxwoods Resort, Mashantucket
L
UD
12/12
World Boxing Organisation World Lightweight Title
Yes Grigorian defeated Balbi in Feb 1997, after which Balbi had 25 fights losing one on a split decision,then he beat Julien Lorcy for the WBA light weight title in 2002.That's why he was ranked above Grigorian at the end of 2002!

You ****ing MUPPET!
Got any more excuses, you sorry sack of ****?lol

 

To be honest, I think Ezzard is an absolute lock for top 3 light heavyweights ever.

 

This Top 10 thread have some very good answers .But only one Ra Al Ghul mention Sugar Shane Mosely. At LW he was beast with a record of 32 - 0 30 ko and eight title defenses. Only Roberto Duran and Shane Mosely has made the jump to WW ( without stopping for 140 lb Title ) and being successful and Mikey Garcia showed what a difficult task it is.