*Top 20 Welterweights of All-Time*

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  1. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    Keep in my mind this list is a little un-refined, but I am hoping you guys can help me out and point a few errors:good

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Sugar Ray Leonard
    3. Jose Napoles
    4. Barney Ross
    5. Thomas Hearns
    6. Kid Gavilan
    7. Carmen Basillio
    8. Joe "Barbados" Walcott
    9. Emille Griffith
    10. Henry Armstrong
    11. Ted "kid" Lewis
    12. Mickey Walker
    13. Jack Britton
    14. Donald Curry
    15. Wilfred Benitez
    16. Marling Starling
    17. Tito Trinidad
    18. Oscar De La Hoya
    19. Pernell Whitaker
    20. Cocoa Kid

    Honorable Mention: Luis Manuel Rodriguez and Young Corbett III

    Thoughts, Opinions, and Corrections
     
  2. TommyV

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    I'd personally have Walker and Whitaker a little higher. Rodriguez has to be in there aswell in my opinion. As should Charley Burley, even if you don't count a lot of his work, he decisively beat Cocoa Kid inside the 147 limit, also Fritzie Zivic, and beat Holman Williams when both were around 148.

    Other then that it looks pretty good. Welterweight is one of the hardest divisions to rank because there's so many great fighters to include. All in all a good job.
     
  3. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Rodriguez and Burley should be on the list, thhey both would probably make my top 10.

    I think #4 is too high for Ross, and Jimmy McLarnin should be on this list as well imo.
     
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  4. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    No order, and no real criteria. Just on first impressions, and possibly leaving out a few names:

    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Kid Gavilan
    Carmen Basilio
    Emile Griffith
    Luis Manuel Rodriguez
    Jose Napoles
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Thomas Hearns
    Roberto Duran
    Holman Williams
    Charley Burley
    Barbados Joe Walcott
    Jack Britton
    Ted "Kid" Lewis
    Mickey Walker
    Jimmy McLarnin
    Barney Ross
    Henry Armstrong
    Fritzie Zivic
    Cocoa Kid
    Pernell Whitaker

    HM: Young Corbett III, Wilfred Benitez, Donald Curry, Felix Trinidad, Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, Pipino Cuevas, Carlos Palomino, Marlon Starling, etc.
     
  5. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Armstrong is way too low and Ross too high,also Rodriguez has to be there.
     
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  6. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Rodriguez is an absolute must in the top 10, certainly top 20. He was arguably one of the top 5 Welterweights of the modern era.
     
  7. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    Thanks for the input thus far:good
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Tommy Ryan should be on the list.
     
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  9. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I gave him a brief thought before deciding to rate him as a Middle, where I figure he did most of his best work. He does have some pretty notable wins around the Welterweight limit though, such as Nonpariel Jack Dempsey, Mysterious Billy Smith, Tommy West, and the larger Kid McCoy.
     
  10. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good list. I like Rodriguez right around Griffith in any welterweight list. Wasn't much to choose between the two. I like Armstrong 4 or 5 notches higher and I like Curry a couple notches higher. I may be a little biased on Curry but thought his brief prime was brilliant.
     
  11. smitty_son408

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    I thought of both Burley and Holman Williams, but I keep rating them as Middleweights over their time spent at welter. Rodriguez belong higher also, one of the errors on my part.
     
  12. tommy the hat

    tommy the hat Active Member Full Member

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    I would definitely hve Luis Rodriguez in there as well and I would say Sweet Pea ranks better than Marlon Starling, and Donald Curry would have to be in the mix if you include Starling since Curry defeated him.
     
  13. Rspen46

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    Without doing more research into it, this is my Best list at this time.

    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    Mickey Walker
    Henry Armstrong
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Joe Walcott
    Barney Ross
    Jose Napoles
    Benny Leonard
    Charley Burley
    Tommy Ryan
    Thomas Hearns
    Carmen Basilio
    Roberto Duran
    Jack Dempsey NP
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Wilfred Benitez
    Jack Britton
    Sam Langford
    Donald Curry
    20. Emile Griffith
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    20 - Roberto Duran
    19 - Felix Trinidad
    18 - Luis Manuel Rodriguez
    17 - Curtis Cokes (so underrated)
    16 - Jimmy McLarnin
    15 - Barney Ross
    14 - Mickey Walker
    13 - Jackie Fields
    12 - Joe Walcott
    11 - Tommy Ryan
    10 - Ted Lewis
    09 - Floyd Mayweather
    08 - Tommy Hearns
    07 - Kid Gavilan
    06 - Henry Armstrong
    05 - Emile Griffiths
    04 - Jose Napoles
    03 - Jack Britton
    02 - Ray Leonord
    01 - Sugar Ray Robinson.
     
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  15. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Pipino Cuevas
    3. Roberto Duran
    4. Tommy Ryan
    5. Henry Armstrong
    6. Mickey Walker
    7. Joe Walcott
    8. Ted Lewis
    9. Jose Napoles
    10. Luis Rodriguez
    11. Carmen Basilio
    12. Emile Griffith
    13. Ray Leonard
    14. Kid Gavilan
    15. Carlos Palomino
    16. Gypsy Joe Harris
    17. Thomas Hearns
    18. Antonio Margarito
    19. Manny Pacqiouaeuoi
    20. Barney Ross