Top 200 All Time List, Impossible Task ?

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    merge the thread to the one in general boxing forums
     
    asero, Jan 17, 2009
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  2. Mike South

    Mike South Member Full Member

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    Re thread title:

    Yes.
     
    Mike South, Jan 18, 2009
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  3. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought about hard it must be to do a top 100 list let alone a top 200 List.

    But im going to have a go now im sure there will be alot of how can you have him there but here is my take on the top 200.

    1. Ray Robinson
    2. Muhammed Ali
    3. Henry Armstrong
    4. Willie Pep
    5. Joe Louis
    6. Benny Leonard
    7. Harry Greb
    8. Roberto Duran
    9. Joe Gans
    10. Sam Langford
    11. Mickey Walker
    12. Jack Johnson
    13. Tony Canzoneri
    14. Ezzard Charles
    15. Archie Moore
    16. Gene Tunney
    17. Rocky Marciano
    18. Julio C Chavez
    19. Stanley Ketchel
    20. Jimmy Wilde
    21. Jack Dempsey
    22. Marcel Cerdan
    23. Marvin Hagler
    24. Bob Fitzsimmons
    25. Emile Griffith
    26. Pernell Whitaker
    27. Ike Williams
    28. Jimmy McLarnin
    29. Carlos Monzon
    30. Larry Holmes
    31. Barney Ross
    32. Billy Conn
    33. Thomas Hearns
    34. Floyd Mayweather
    35. Evander Holyfield
    36. Abe Attell
    37. Jose Napoles
    38. Manny Pacquiao
    39. Jake LaMotta
    40. Kid Chocolate
    41. George Foreman
    42. Eder Jofre
    43. Ruben Olivares
    44. Sandy Saddler
    45. Roy Jones Jr
    46. Aaron Pryor
    47. Ted Lewis
    48. Beau Jack
    49. Tommy Loughran
    50. Bernard Hopkins
    51. Alexis Arguello
    52. Charlie Burley
    53. Dick Tiger
    54. Tony Zale
    55. Ricardo Lopez
    56. Johnny Dundee
    57. Bob Foster
    58. Terry McGovern
    59. Joe Frazier
    60. Carmen Basilio
    61. George Dixon
    62. Mike Tyson
    63. Rocky Graziano
    64. Battling Nelson
    65. Joe Walcott
    66. Sonny Liston
    67. Carlos Ortiz
    68. Marco A Barrera
    69. Felix Trinidad
    70. Kid Gavilan
    71. Pasquel Perez
    72. Salvador Sanchez
    73. Pancho Villa
    74. Mike Gibbons
    75. Fighting Harada
    76. Wilfredo Benitez
    77. Jack Britton
    78. Jack Dempsey (Nonperiel)
    79. Erik Morales
    80. Lennox Lewis
    81. Tommy Ryan
    82. Maxie Rosenbloom
    83. Nicolino Locche
    84. Young Corbett 11
    85. Lou Ambers
    86. Carlos Zarate
    87. Azumah Nelson
    88. John L Sullivan
    89. Panama Al Brown
    90. Jack Dillon
    91. Joe Calzaghe
    92. Young Stribling
    93. Flash Elorde
    94. Packey McFarland
    95. Bobo Olson
    96. Floyd Patterson
    97. Kostya Tszyu
    98. Mike McCallum
    99. Battling Levinski
    100. Terry Norris

    Thats my 100 i need more time for 200.
     
    BoppaZoo, Jan 18, 2009
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  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You forgot the guy that beat your no.'s 8, 23, 33 and 76 for a start.
     
    sweet_scientist, Jan 18, 2009
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  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Scientist...RE your list and a little bit of research regarding mine..Where does a fighter like Curtis Cokes belong?
     
    WhataRock, Jan 18, 2009
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  6. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He deserves to be on my list Rock. I wouldn't say he is inferior to a good swathe of the guys I have there. I wouldn't have him near my 100, but I don't think he is out of the equation of the top 200.

    Excellent fighter to be sure who would imo give someone like Donald Curry all he could handle.
     
    sweet_scientist, Jan 18, 2009
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  7. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    :lol: What an elitist moron you are Trampie!!

    You write as if you are too good for the General Forum and as if you don't rate it at all - and yet the General Forum absolutely savaged your shocking attempt at a list!

    The General Forum joined as one to laugh at someone posting an ATG list with William Joppy at 143, with Ricky Hatton ranked some 40 places above Erik Morales and more than 40 above Azumah Nelson, with Kelly Pavlik and Chad Dawson above Harold Johnson and Jimmy Bivins, with Chris John and Sven Ottke above Winky Wright and Don Curry, with Joe Calzaghe 40 places above Holman Williams...

    ...need I go on? You have no right to make these elitist comments about the General Forum when you have produced a list of insufficient quality to earn respect there, you look utterly ridiculous doing so in here to anyone who saw your horrible first version of the list and the reaction it got.
     
    DINAMITA, Jan 18, 2009
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  8. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    **** i forgot Ray Leonard. **** See its hard to remember everyone.

    Bit put him in at 13 and move everyone down 1 spot. LOL
     
    BoppaZoo, Jan 18, 2009
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  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    :nono

    Not funny
     
    Bill Butcher, Jan 18, 2009
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  10. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    To anyone who bothered to discuss and debate this list with Trampie on this forum, he just posted this on the same thread, his top 200, on the General:


    Waste of time guys, all the work of creating a top 200, of arguing and discussing and defending his choices on 2 forums over a number of days, of changing his order after receiving some criticisms, all of it was just a cunning plan to pretend that he thought Joe Calzaghe was the 46th best fighter of all-time to annoy "Calzaghe-haters" like me.


    The mind boggles.
     
    DINAMITA, Jan 19, 2009
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  11. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Quote from DINAMITA on the 'general boxing forum' -
    ''I must re-evaluate my membership of this site after witnessing something so very very pathetic and humiliating as this. To post a list, take criticism, and then pretend it was a hilarious "joke" (?) to entrap a poster you have hardly ever spoken to before just boggles the mind''.

    In responce to the above quote by DINAMITA, i am sorry for humiliating you i only meant to 'show you up' for your responces to previous posts of mine.

    DINAMITA i apologise, you do not have to re-evalute your membership,
    i can tell from the wording of your last post that i upset you, and for that i apologise :thumbsup

    I am going to take the Owain Glyndwr path, after the Welsh had soundly beaten the invading English army in one particular battle, the retreating English soldiers burned down Welsh places of worship and did some unspeakable things to women and children on their way home, the Welsh knights were so incenced that they wanted to go over the border and do the same thing back, but Owain said no, why are we free ?,why have still got our language and customs ? its because God favours us, if we lower ourselves to the level of our opponents then he may not favour us and we are outnumbered 100 to 1.
    So although i do not think i have God on my side, or compare myself to Glyndwr, i will do the right thing, even if you take this post as a sign of weakness, i will not respond with a nasty post.

    Having said that, now can we get back to talking boxing {without any personal attacks} why have you not got Lou Ambers, Bob Montgomery,
    Beau Jack, Peerless Jim Driscoll or James J Jeffries in your top 100 ?
    Why is 'The Mighty Atom' down so low ?, check him out ? he was not called 'The Ghost with a Hammer in his Hand' for nothing !, he was the definition of a p4p fighter as he nearly always fought boxers heavier than himself and often won by ko or stoppage.
    If you give me some time i will compile a real top 200 list and if you got time perhaps you can compile a top 200 and we can compare.
    There thats the olive branch held out :yep even if you Jocks sided with the old enemy and got the Home International Championships scrapped just as we were about to dominate too ?
     
    trampie, Jan 20, 2009
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  12. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was Winstone in your top 200 trampie?

    because if he was left out due to a William Joppy or Pavlik i demand you leave this forum, never to return.;)
     
    Mantequilla, Jan 20, 2009
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  13. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Canzoneri at #13 but Ross at #31 BoppaZoo? McLarnin over Ross as well?
     
    Sweet Pea, Jan 20, 2009
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  14. DINAMITA

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    I could reply with a similarly long-winded and snidey riposte, but instead I'll just say that you had William Joppy at 143rd in your top 200 boxers of all-time, and that the only thing I've ever heard even more lamentable than that was that when your list came under scrutiny from all sides, you pretended it was a "hoax" list to irritate me, a poster you have barely ever spoken to. See ya :hi: (that was me waving goodbye to any credibility you ever had on this website)
     
    DINAMITA, Jan 20, 2009
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  15. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Howard Winstone you will be glad to know was in the original 200, i did pick 150 or so what i thought were genuine atg's mixed in with some ringers, i deliberately put Johnson, Calzaghe and Hatton high, i will do a real top 200 in time but even without messing about, i am no expert.
     
    trampie, Jan 20, 2009
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