Top 200 All Time List, Impossible Task ?

I said it would take 20 minutes to make a better one than that.

Artard.

 

I should correct myself....how could any of us make a list like this when we haven't seen alot of these fighters enough to make an educated decision?

We would basically be taking a combination of other peoples opinions and making it our own.

 

When the general consensus of those that watched, wrote and studied the pre-televised greats agree that they were better than some of their historically later contemporaries it has to be accounted for. And should be. Especially those that dominated their peers in such commanding fashions.

Right?

 

Ya, thats basically what I am saying. We would be going by other peoples opinions for info on alot of guys.

It's fun to make these lists and debate them so I guess we should just leave it at that.

William Joppy doesn't belong on any top 500 list.

 

Nope. I still think these lists are useless, but as I said...FUN!

 

My list annihilates yours mate.

I noted when I made it that I didn't include George Dixon because I didn't have great enough knowledge of his career to make a definitive judgement, he is a hole in my knowledge, I admit that.

Montgomery and Jack did not make it into my 100, I'm comfortable with that.

Shane Mosley's resume means he never had a hope, he doesn't deserve it IMO.


Jimmy Wilde is NOT a top 20 fighter IMO, I am certain of that.

I don't care who rates Jack Johnson highly, that you have him above Ali is an absolute JOKE. I do not see the argument for having Jack Johnson top 50 never mind your absurd placing of him.

Stanley Ketchel is not a top 25 ATG at all - what criteria do you look at when making lists?? There's no way Ketchel deserves to be that high.


Oh, and that now I pointed it out you have taken it back means nothing, you had

WILLIAM ****ING JOPPY

in your top 200. William Joppy.

And you didn't have him at 198th or 199th, you had him at

143RD

Sorry, but that destroys the credibility of your list and your credibility as a maker of lists.

 

From your top 35 alone:

Totally Unjustifiable

- Jimmy Wilde above Ezzard Charles and more

- Jack Johnson above Ezzard Charles, Benny Leonard, Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali, Mickey Walker and TENS of others

- Mickey Walker being below Eder Jofre, Joe Louis, Ray Leonard and more

- Archie Moore being below Eder Jofre, Joe Louis and more

- Stanley Ketchel and Rocky Marciano being above Saddler, Monzon, Canzoneri, Whitaker and more

- Jack Dempsey up at #30?!

- BARNEY ROSS at only #33?!?!?! Ludicrous.

- Larry Holmes above Emile Griffith


Need I go on? It's a bad bad list mate.

 

Your list wouldn't be much better...

 

You hate on muh fu3kas to much

 

I'm assuming it's Calzaghe's placing at 46 that is the problem and not his inclusion in the 200. Yes?

 

I Saw your list and it's pretty good, I myself made a top 100 based on fighters I've watched, Then fighters I've read about in books and finally Internet research, It took day's of shutting myself off from the world and really was a lot of fun, also learning about a lot of fighters I've never heard of was cool.

I Love the History of boxing, something about it really get's me i wish i could study it full time instead of the mundane working bollocks.
But i ain't posting it, i haven't got the balls you two guys have or the time to argue over whether Fighter A needs to be higher than Fighter B, which invariably happens when anyone posts such a list.

I Think this top 200 list is not what i would of had but props for taking the time and having the courage to post it.