Top 200 All Time List, Impossible Task ?

DINAMITA {YOU WILL FOREVERMORE BE KNOWN AS GEORGIE HOLE}

'Georgie' because you left George Dixon out of your top 100 and 'hole' because you claimed he is a hole in your knowledge :happy

 

Up dated list coming soon, any feedback welcomed so pecking order can be changed for the better, dead wood kicked out etc {ps i get the Joppy message}
Some of 'Georgie Hole's' concerns may be acted on or then again may be not, we shall see ?

 

' El Finito' Ricardo Lopez is 58 on the list.

 

Update:- Joppy and Pavlik given the boot, replaced by Winky Wright and Bute, could have played safe and picked somebody like Ken Norton instead of Bute ?,Bute last 4 wins over Bika,Berrio,Joppy and Andrade {last 3 for a World title} combined with his career 0 swung it for me. Winky record is much better than i realised so he goes in at 143. Two major movers Lou Ambers whos record is better than i first thought moves up into the top 100 and Sugar Shane Mosley whos record is worse than i thought moves out of the top 100 conviently 1 place behind Winky who to my surprise has beaten Sugar Shane twice.
B.Ross moves above Canzoneri as had been pointed out to me Ross has a 2-0 head to head, although it seems both results were paper thin.
The other movements are small to accommodate recent results,Bhops and Manny winning and De La Hoya losing, i did not think JC win over RJJ or Hattons recent win warrented any movement.

 

This list is not a P4P list, it is a ''IM A BETTER BOXER AT MY WEIGHT THAN YOU ARE AT YOUR WEIGHT'' list, for example Sugar Ray Robinson was a better Welterweight than Marciano was a Heavyweight, so he gets ranked above him, Jimmy Wilde was a better Flyweight boxer than Ricardo Lopez was a Straweight boxer so he gets ranked above him.

Observations about lists -
P4P is crap ?, boxers that spend most of their career at one weight tend to be penalised also it puts Heavyweights at a disadvantage as a fully blown Heavyweight can only operate at that weight.
In P4P lists not only do smaller boxers do well, but defeats dont matter, a well known poster on here told me that Pacman could lose to De La Hoya and it would not effect his position in p4p lists unfortunately he is correct, a ranking system that allows boxers to lose and not be downgraded is pathetic, just because that boxer lost to a bigger man.
As far as i am concerned if a boxer gets into a ring with another boxer and loses, 9 times out of 10 i would perceive the winner as the better boxer, i cant have he moved up 2 weight divisions and although he lost he should be ranked higher bull****.
Sport is about winning, as good as Pacman is he has been beaten 3 times and drawn twice. i bet he will end up with a couple more defeats at the end of his career {like most boxers do} some people are saying he could be a top 20 atg, oh yes a modern boxer who only fights two or three times a year with 5 defeats and 2 draws a top 20 atg ?
Thats why i cant have Pacman above Mayweather or Calzaghe.

In my mind winning and losing in the ring counts for something.
Qawi leads Saad Muhammed 2-0, so i rank Qawi higher
Collins leads Eubank 2-0
Collins leads Benn 2-0
Eubank leads Benn 1-0 {and a draw} so i rank Collins,Eubank,Benn
McGuigan leads Pedroza 1-0 so i rank McGuigan higher
Hatton leads Tszyu 1-0 so i rank Hatton higher {i dont think Tszyu was shot although he retired after the fight}
Foreman leads Frazier 2-0 so i rank Foreman higher
i use the above examples because a lot of people would rank those boxers the other way
i was advised that Ross holds a 2-0 over Canzoneri, so i changed their rankings,
once i realised Winky Wright had a 2-0 over Mosley the list was changed.

There are lots of examples of boxers having a winning record and still been placed behind
the boxer they beat on the list.
Terry Norris is still ranked behind Sugar Ray Leonard and
Joe Calzaghe is still ranked behind Roy Jones Jnr {although the only reason Calzaghe is listed above Hopkins is due to his win over the executioner,Hopkins is still 80% to 90% prime the same as Calzaghe, i see Calzaghe beating Hopkins at most stages of their careers}.
As you can see head to head is not the be all and end all, but i do favour wins in the ring.

If anybody knows of boxers on the list who have a winning record over other boxers on the list and are ranked below them let me know !
{as long as it is not Norris/Leonard scenario}

Do you notice i like boxers with 0's Marciano,Mayweather,Calzaghe even Dawson,Ottke and Bute { the last 2 are #199 and #200}
I just dont like losers, once Dawson and Bute lose i can see them been booted off the list just like Pavlik was, unless Dawson loses to Calzaghe and takes him to the wire he might just stay inside the top 200 {but be demoted}.