Top 25 all time greatest heavyweights

Porky Russ, is that you?

 

I don't know what the hell a Porky Russ is suppose to mean. Nice try though.

 

Porky's corner YouTube channel.

Calls everyone a casual, and very frequently.

 

Sullivan shouldn't be even in top-100, Corbett shouldn't be in top-20, Dempsey shouldn't be in top-10. Lewis at 4 and Holyfield at 16? LOL They should be very close to each other considering that washed up Holyfield gave prime Lewis all he could handle in their rematch and Holyfield has better resume than Lewis. Also, Holmes is too low.

 

ha.

I'd had him as high as 15 while mulling the list over.

 

good move, the times you got embarrassed by a "gimp" are no more.

 

Broke his ankle you big stiff idiot

 

I strongly disagree with your list, especially with Sullivan, Holmes, Lewis, Holyfield and Liston.

 

Joshua should definitely be ranked higher than Walcott and Bowe.

 

It's nice to see some inspired and well thought out lists being submitted here.

Here is my top 20 (I'm still in the process of compiling a top 50, have only recently finished selecting my top 20 and am still not completely satisfied with my choices, especially 10 through 20, although I'm reasonably comfortable with my top 10.)

Do bare in mind that I've only been into boxing since last July and still have much to learn about the history of the sport. Constructive criticism is therefore welcome.

1 - M. Ali
2 - J. Louis
3 - R. Marciano
4 - G. Tunney
5 - L. Holmes
6 - G. Foreman
7 - J. Frazier
8 - L. Lewis
9 - E. Holyfield
10 - J. Dempsey
11 - S. Liston
12 - J. Walcot
13 - J. Johnson
14 - F. Patterson
15 - W. Klitschko
17 - K. Norton
18 - M. Tyson
19 - J. Ellis
20 - V. Klitschko

 

broke it running away the fat bum.

 

Bruh Fury played with Wladamir the robot for 12 rounds straight

what makes you think the rematch goes any different?

 

Actually, YOU are the casual. Most real fans know that greatness is measured by what a fighter accomplished in his own era. So, for the record, mine are based on accomplishment.

Any way, here goes. Accidentally did 26

26. Baer
Who knows how good he could have been if he didn't kill a man in the ring and lose his desire to fight. His son later described how he woke up at night screaming. Very sad. In any event, gets there on Schmeling, Carnera, and few others.

25. Sharkey
Beat Wills, Godfrey, and Schmeling

24. Norton
Soley based on his performances against Ali, and throw in Quarry

23. Walcott
Great win over Charles and should have had the Bomber, but lots of losses on there.

22. VitKlit
Wish I could rate him higher but the wins aren't there. Great statistical record, though.

21. Riddick Bowe
Almost soley for the first win with Holyfield and an impressive looking record. Should have about three DQ losses, possibly a loss to Tubbs, and disgraced himself by running from Lewis.

20. Floyd Patterson
His reign was mostly a disgrace, but he managed wins over Moore, Jackson, Bonevena, Cooper, Machon, and Johanson. Much like Schmeling, in the big picture he was great.

19. Max Schmeling
His title run was a disgrace, but he is the only man to hold a win over physical prime bomber, has his disputed fights with Sharkey, and also beat Hamas, Stribling, Nuesal, Risko, and Walker. And he should have gotten the shot against Braddock and won the title back. Joe Louis' version of Joe Frazier.

18. Liston
I realize that an entire legend has sprung up around the guy, but basically, his record is not that impressive. He destroyed Patterson, who was great but uber-chinny, and defeated Williams, Machon, and Foley, who were solid but unspectacular. Quit twice against Ali.

17. Ezzard Charles
Very underrated, PfP guy with the wins over Louis, Walcott, Maxim, Moore. Impressive that he started as a middle. Wish I could rate him higher.

16. Holmes
I have argued this one to death elsewhere--I find the man overrated because he openly, without a question ducked Page and Thomas, and even bragged about doing it. He helped to fragment titles by giving the IBF credibility. That being said, he had a beautiful jab, and was tough in the ring. And he did have 19-20 defenses (Frazier was not official) even if a majority of them were utter garbage.

15. Dempsey
Good place for the man who fought about once a year as champ, and never fought his #1 contender. He is still a legend, and might have beaten Wills, but as it stands, Wills is the real champ in my book.

14. Mike Tyson
Such a meteoric rise...and fall. I honestly believe that he could have been the best ever. But he didn't want it.

13. Langford
What a phenom. Started as a lightweight, and won 180 fights up to heavy. PfP greatness.

12. Jeffries
Only one super-out-of-prime loss, with some great wins. I don't dock him as much points as the other color line guys, because 1. He fought three good black fighters coming up, 2. He considered giving Johnson a shot, and Johnson blew it by losing (controversial) to Hart, and 3. Jeffries eventually did fight him.

11. Jack Johnson
No one denies his skill and accomplishment, but I find him a hair overrated for two reasons: 1. He also did not fight the black fighters when he won the title, and 2. He has some embarrassing losses (Chonyski). A great fighter no doubt and we could put him a bit higher.

10. Tunney
Beat every man he ever fought, including greats Harry Greb and Jack Dempsey.

9. Harry Wills
I was once a huge Jack Dempsey fan, and according to the Mauler he wanted to fight Wills, but objectively, Wills has the better record, and was the real champ of their era. The color line was such a shame.

8. WladKlit
Two time champ with 23 defenses. Yup, if garbage defenses like those of Wilder's count, then so do Wladdy's WBO reign.

7. Holyfield
Would be much higher, as he beat the second most number of greats behind Ali, but he is a bit diminished in my mind with the "Evan Fields" controversy. We really don't know how good he was, but it is a shame to leave him of entirely, so I will say seven with an asterix. Could be higher, or much lower.

6. Joe Frazier
Winner of the fight of the century. Love the man.

5. George Foreman
Two-time champ with some great wins, and the entire mystique of the comeback.

4. Lewis
Presided over the second golden era of boxing, beat every man he ever fought, beat Tyson, Holyfield, and Vitklit, and scared Bowe into making a coward of himself.

3. Marciano
The "0." Haters can hate, and somewhere in that big boxing ring in the sky, the Rock is laughing. Also, highest knockout percentage.

2. Louis
25 defenses. Someday it will be broken, but 25 UNDISPUTED defenses will never be broken. Had the war not happened, it might have been more.

1. Ali
Beat the most great, near great, and just damned good fighters.

Hell, I know I left out a whole bunch. Sullivan, Corbett, Fitsimmonds, Jeanette, McVea, Jackson, Larry Gaines...and on and on.

 

Lol right because you type a bunch of crap it proves what? It is like me asking what is the greatest fighter jet of all time and somebody named fighter jet from the 1920s and said well historically speaking it was great for it's era. You are the casual fan and people like you love to find away to put Marciano into every heavyweight list. He wasn't a heavyweight and even for 180 pound standards he was a bum who made his career fighting old men and mob controlled fighters.

As I said you casual fans who aren't smart enough to realize there are weight classes for a reason and nobody is above it. The casual fans like you aren't bright enough to realize boxing has evolved in the last 40 years. The guys like Jack Johnson are so bad that Ronda Rousey has better punching skills than they do. Casuals fans who love to put guys from the early 1900s on the heavyweight list because they think it makes them seem knowledgeable .

 

I don't presonally agree with many of your placements, but it was well thought out and intelligently argued. In a list like this, as subjective as they are, that's all you can ask for. Ignore the odious, celestial troll. You can't fix stupid.