Top 25 all time under 200lb

Good list but where's Bivins?

 

Let’s define the terms here, are you mixing heavies and light heavies?

 

1. Joe Louis
2. Oleksandr Usyk
3. Rocky Marciano
4. Evander Holyfield
5. Jack Dempsey
6. Ezzard Charles
7. Roy Jones Jr
8. Jersey Joe Walcott
9. Max Schmeling
10. Floyd Patterson
11. Michael Spinks
12. Gene Tunney
13. Ingemar Johansson
14. Jimmy Ellis
15. Archie Moore
16. James Toney
17. Rex Layne
18. Jimmy Ellis
19. Jerry Quarry
20. Jack Sharkey
21. Tommy Loughran
22. Jimmy Bivins
23. Harold Johnson
24. Eddie Machen
25. David Haye
I like ur list a lot I just added Loughran and Layne. It’s not the order exactly h2h I’d have but is what it is.
Edit I forgot Bivins as well lol

 

I have chopped the list down to the ones that I have questions about.

I have had a very high opinion of Usyk for some time, but perhaps wait until he is retired before giving him the #2 slot on this very prestigious list.

Jones at 7 seems unwarrantedly high, for a number of reasons.

I can only allow you to have Ellis in the 14 or 18 spot, but I understand how this sort of error happens.

 

I think Louis & Holyfield are the 2 best H2H fighters under 200 lb.

 

Very surprised you included Dempsey

 

Please show me where I’ve once said Marciano would lose to Patterson in their primes or that he was afraid of Valdes.

Or are you falsely attributing statements to me yet again?

 

Yes but his chin will crack, if hit by many others on the list, as we saw later in his career.

Also he only beat one man north of 175, and was never lineal in any weight class.

 

Usyk as a pro has never been under 200lbs.

 

Whereas I deeply respect your opinion, I do not see any reason to wait. Given the modern, athletic goliaths he has chopped down, I would say a select few on the list compare.