Top 25 ATG Heavyweight List

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Oliver McCall
    2. Nicolay Valuev
    3. George Foreman
    4. Vitali Klitschko

    5. Tony Tucker
    6. David Tua

    7. Evander Holyfield
    8. Lamon Brewster
    9. Ike Ibeabuchi
    10. Lennox Lewis


    11. Riddick Bowe
    12. Ross Puritty
    13. James Smith
    14. James Douglas
    15. Joe Frazier
    16. Larry Holmes
    17. Henry Akinwande
    18. Tim Witherspoon
    19. Wladimir Klitschko
    20. Joe Louis



    21. Tony Tubbs
    22. James Tillis (without eating eggs might have amounted 2 higher than this)
    23. Mitch Green
    24. Sultanakhmed Ibragimov
    25. Kirk Johnson
    26. Dominick Guinn
    27. Corrie Sanders
    28. Larry Donald
    29. Jameel McCline
    30. Michael Grant

    31. Lance Whitaker
    32. Oleg Maskaev
    33. Hasim Rahman
    34. Frank Bruno
    35. Corey Sanders
    36. Nate Tubbs
     
    frankenfrank, Sep 18, 2012
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  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Louis
    2. Ali
    3. Johnson
    4. Holmes
    5. Lewis
    6. Foreman
    7. Liston
    8. Tyson
    9. Holyfield
    10. Marciano
    11. Frazier
    12. Jeffries
    13. Dempsey
    14. Wills
    15. Charles
    16. Wlad
    17. Langford
    18. Walcott
    19. Bowe
    20. Norton
    21. Schmeling
    22. Corbett
    23. Patterson
    24. Jackson
    25. Tunney
     
    JAB5239, Sep 18, 2012
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  3. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl Still the absolute worst list I have EVER seen!! Great for a laugh though!! :rofl
     
    JAB5239, Sep 18, 2012
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  4. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting list good to see Jeffries higher than most have him - can't have Wills above Langford though under any circumstances - but you got me think maybe I should do a list including all heavyweights (ie not just the champs) like you
     
    RockysSplitNose, Sep 19, 2012
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  5. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like it....might be the closest thing I have seen to my own....not sure if that is good or bad, take it how you will!

    01 Louis
    02 Ali

    03 Holmes
    04 Foreman
    05 Lewis

    06 Frazier
    07 Marciano
    08 Tyson

    09 Johnson
    10 Holyfield

    11 Dempsey
    12 Liston
    13 Jeffries
    14 Wlad

    15 Schmeling
    16 Bowe
    17 Vitali

    18 Patterson
    19 Charles
    20 Walcott
    21 Wills

    22 Sullivan
    23 Langford
    24 Tunney
    25 Jackson
     
    PhillyPhan69, Sep 19, 2012
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  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    There have been a lot of horrendous lists on this thread, but this one is actually pretty good. I especially like the way you rank them in groups of more or less similar levels.

    Not sure I'd place Sullivan, Jeffries, Johnson, or Jackson that high. I think there are a lot of question marks around the quality of fighters in their era; but at least nobody is arguing for the inclusion of James Figg, Jack Broughton, or Daniel Mendoza. And Lewis couldn't beat either of the Klitschko's without an injury or other freak occurrence. Holyfield maybe should be above Tyson, because he beat Tyson, and he has the better resume, even if he never looked as ferocious in action.
     
    OvidsExile, Sep 19, 2012
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  7. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yer like I said mate, I'm still researching Sullivan so I'll admit he was just kinda dropped in their at 25 but what I will say is that when he stepped up in competition he lost and retired, which certainly makes me question if he was actually fighting decent opposition throughout his career. I thoroughly believe that the likes of Jeffries, Corbett, Johnson, Langford etc would all beat him with a certain degree of ease (maybe not so much Corbett)
     
    Webbiano, Sep 19, 2012
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  8. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good right you are mate. I'm pretty sure I'd be right in saying that your top 16 is almost identical to a list I've previously done if you were to move Tyson down to 10. I did a bit of a re shuffle from 16 and above. Mine used to be pretty much the same here or there, However having Louis at one has now prompted me to move up Marciano and Charles, therefore raising Walcott as well as they are virtually inseparable in my eyes. I'd also love to put Wills above Dempsey but I just can't bring myself to do it. Harry having never held the world title really drops him down in my criteria.
     
    Webbiano, Sep 19, 2012
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  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    at least u published your ridiculous pathetic list prior 2 discrediting my list .
     
    frankenfrank, Sep 19, 2012
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  10. silenc

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    1. Ali
    2. Louis
    3. Holmes
    4. Lewis
    5. Foreman
    6. Marciano
    7. Johnson
    8. Tyson
    9. Holyfield
    10. Frazier
    11. Dempsey
    12. Liston
    13. Jeffries
    14. W. Klitschko
    15. Tunney
    16. Charles
    17. Patterson
    18. Bowe
    19. M. Spinks
    20. V. Klitschko
    21. Walcott
    22. Norton
    23. Wills
    24. Moorer
    25. Schmeling
     
    silenc, Sep 19, 2012
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  11. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    every opinion is just that...an opinion...
     
    Bummy Davis, Sep 19, 2012
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  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good List, and your are showing your balls and that is what its all about your opinions are as good as anyone....I love Rocky at # 1, he is one of my favorites. I think Louis should be higher than Johnson and Dempsey but that is a matter of opinion ( I remember a few well respected old timers that would agree with you)....Good list
     
    Bummy Davis, Sep 19, 2012
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  13. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    top 3 is intact IMO, Holmes a little high IMO but not as bad as most on ESB, I personly would rate Dempsey higher than Johnson but I guess its how you feel about the era...All in all good rating
     
    Bummy Davis, Sep 19, 2012
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  14. guilalah

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    Very defensible list.
     
    guilalah, Sep 19, 2012
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  15. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I feel with that top 3 it could go in any order and not look to bad. I like Foreman above Holmes, but not over Lewis although his head to head abilities make it close. I feel Johnson faced better opposition than Dempsey simple as. Had he faced Wills it may be a different story, but not fighting the best fighter bar you in your era really hurts him as well as losing to a boxer-puncher like Tunney, showing he couldn't live with a pure boxer although Jacks initial skills are underrated.
     
    Webbiano, Sep 19, 2012
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