Top 25 Heavyweights OAT

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  1. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    As of 01/17/2026, I have them ...
    01 Joe Louis
    02 Muhammad Ali
    03 Lennox Lewis
    04 Evander Holyfield
    05 George Foreman
    06 Sonny Liston
    07 Rocky Marciano
    08 Mike Tyson
    09 Jack Dempsey
    10 Joe Frazier
    11 Jack Johnson
    12 Larry Holmes
    13 Wladimir Klitschko
    14 Oleksandr Usyk
    15 Vitali Klitschko
    16 James J. Jeffries
    17 Sam Langford
    18 Floyd Patterson
    19 Max Baer
    20 Max Schmeling
    21 Tyson Fury
    22 Harry Wills
    23 Primo Carnera
    24 Riddick Bowe
    25 John L. Sullivan

    Edit: My copy of my own list error corrected. Holmes added where I originally had him.
     
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  2. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No Larry Holmes?
     
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  3. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry Sonya but where is Larry Holmes, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott and Gene Tunney?
     
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  4. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Missing Larry Holmes was a mistake, on my part, when I copied my own list. I will edit and correct my mistaken omission. Thank you!
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Regardless of where you rank them, what does the answer to a trivia question have to do with a fighter’s greatness?

    Do the youngest and oldest (as that’s another milestone trivia question) automatically jump up a few spaces in the ranking? Do they drop accordingly if someone younger or older claims that particular distinction?

    What about tallest and shortest, lightest and heaviest, while we’re at it?
     
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  6. Jakub79

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    Good point. I think it doesn't matter. Okay, it can be impressive, but what matters most is what you achieved and how, not when.
    That's why I never gave Tyson too many points for being the youngest. Okay, he was the best 20-year-old, but at 30, he's not even in the top 50 heavyweights. What matters is how he fought in his best fights, nothing more.
    I don't give George points for holding the belt at 45, but it must be admitted that it demonstrates enormous potential he didn't fulfill. But this isn't a ranking of the best 20-year-olds or 45-year-olds.
     
  7. mcvey

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    Carnera?
     
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  8. h8me

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    That’s not really healthy or responsible when you’re getting ready for a fight, which is why I find it unlikely.
     
  9. brb

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    After round 4 Emanuel instructs Lennox to use his weight and lean on Vitali. It was part of the plan.
     
  10. brb

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    It's more than a trivia question. It's an accomplishment. I believe the average age of a HW champ is 26. So someone doing it at 20 is pretty impressive considering they may not have fully developed (both physically and emotionally) and they have more potential moving forward. Same thing with George Foreman and him winning the title at 45. Most of his skills and attributes have been diminished at that age.

    Regarding being the tallest that is more of a trivia question because typically a bigger person beats up on a smaller person due to their physical attributes (e.g. longer arms, difficult to reach chin, etc.) so it's not really impressive. If you said the shortest person was much smaller say 4'10 that would be extremely impressive if they were HW champ and people would claim that is the best p4p fighter ever. Same situation if it was a 130 lb. fighter who became the HW champ. Moral of the story is if it is impressive than it is an accomplishment and not just trivia.
     
  11. Saintpat

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    Being the youngest champ is an accomplishment but it’s not a resume enhancer.

    Sonny Liston was a better heavyweight than Floyd Patterson. Sonny won it (from Floyd) when he was older; Floyd won it when he was younger, but we don’t give Patterson bonus points to bump him above Sonny. Or at least I don’t.
     
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  12. h8me

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    Even if he had weighed 5 kg less, he would still have been able to do that. You may have your theories, but the simplest explanation is that Lennox was scheduled to fight Kirk Johnson, underestimated him, and was out of shape for the Vitali bout.
     
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  13. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He shouldn't have done it then.
     
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  14. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sure no excuse for losing but it was just in a regards to chin the swinging power punches you can't see hurt most.
     
  15. brb

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    That's his own fault (again). Lennox didn't think he could beat Vitali that's what it comes down to. He didn't have that many fights and wasn't that old.
     
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