Top 3 heavyweights by country

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My ranking:

    USA: 1) Muhammad Ali; 2) Joe Louis; 3) Larry Holmes

    UK: 1) Lennox Lewis; 2) Tyson Fury; 3) Anthony Joshua (Bob Fitzimmons is greater than all of them in P4P sence)

    Germany: 1) Max Schmeling; 2) Walter Neusel; 3) Axel Shulz

    Ukraine: 1) Wladimir Klitschko; 2) Vitali Klitschko; 3) Volodymyr Vyrchys (Usyk will likely surpass him very soon though)

    Russia: 1) Alexander Povetkin; 2) Sultan Ibragimov; 3) Oleg Maskaev

    Poland: 1) Andrew Golota; 2) Tomash Adamek (P4P Adamek is greater of course); 3) Kownacki probably (as weird as it sounds)

    Italy: 1) Primo Carnera; 2) Francesco Damiani; 3) Santo Amonti?

    Spain: 1) Paulino Uzcudun; 2) Jose Manuel Urtain; 3)???

    Sweden: 1) Ingemar Johansson; 2) Olle Tandberg; 3) Harry Persson

    Argentina: 1) Oscar Bonavena; 2) Gregorio Peralta; 3) either Lovell or Firpo

    New Zealand: 1) David Tua; 2) Joseph Parker; 3) Kali Meehan

    Nigeria: 1) Ike Ibeabuchi; 2) Sam Peter; 3) David Izon

    Cuba: 1) Luis Ortiz; 2) Nino Valdez; 3) ether Eliecer Castillo or Odlanier Solis

    South Africa: 1) Corrie Sanders; 2) Gerrie Coetzee; 3) Ben Foord
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Argentina would be interesting.

    You have Firpo and Bonavena in the top two spots, in whatever order you prefer, but then what?

    Marcello Dominguez perhaps?
     
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    Canada

    1. Sam Langford
    2. Tommy Burns
    3. Tervor Berbick

    Honorable mention George Godfrey (original), Jack Munro, Jack Delaney (obviously much better that LHW), George Chuvalo, Kirk Johnson.
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    France

    1. Georges Carpintier
    2. Jean Marc Mormek
    3. Jackson Chanet (based on amateur work at heavyweight).
     
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  5. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about Takam?
     
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  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think that he was born in France.
     
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  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think an argument can be made for Lorenzo Zanon as No. 3 for Italy.
     
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  8. andrewe

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    Good rankings for USA, would put Joe Frazier in place of Louis but Larry Holmes is def #3 and Ali is def #1
     
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You have lost any credibility you might have retained on this forum.
     
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  10. andrewe

    andrewe Ezekiel 33 banned Full Member

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    Agreed. No Ali? Holmes?
    Who puts GENE TUNNEY, above Ali or Holmes? Who puts MARCIANO Above Ali or Holmes?
    I disagree with Louis even being above Ali or Holmes, but he accomplished a lot and I consider him to be the first great heavyweight champion. I can get behind that, even though h2h he couldn't be in the top 5
     
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  11. Jason Thomas

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    Argentina had a lot to good heavies from the 1920's into the 1970's. It is one of the few countries which might have had at least 10 heavyweights make the top ten rankings at one point or another. Someone like Firpo could be viewed as #1 or not even in the top three.

    Argentina--Bonavena, Peralta, Lovell

    Germany--Schmeling, Mildenberger, Neusel

    Spain--Uzcudun, Urtain, Claudio Villar

    Italy--Carnera, Damiani, Cavicchi

    French Canadians--Burns, Cleroux, Delaney

    *Argentine heavies that I think made the top ten rankings--Firpo, Campolo, Lovell, Brion, Miteff, Lavorante, Bonavena, Peralta, Corletti for sure. There might be others. Although Lavorante had a short career and a tragic ending, his KO of Folley could be viewed in retrospect as the most impressive single win by any Argentine heavy, considering that Folley was prime.
     
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  12. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Australia is another interesting one

    Would Peter Jackson and Joe Goddard have the top 2 spots? Who after them?
     
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    Jason Thomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Australia--Jackson, Goddard, Heeney
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Wasn't Rudduck Canadian?
     
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  15. Seamus

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    Sorry, dude. I can't bother with you. Tunney but no Ali? I'm not going bother to continue because I don't have to. You have exposed yourself.
     
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