Top 30 P4P!!!

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  1. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Just like to get some comments on my top 30 P4P. Anyone I missed? Anyone who should be higher/lower?

    Note that my P4P is primarily based on resume / achievements, and not on the "what ifs". I am pretty much settled on my top 5, but I see that the order of boxers ranked 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, etc. can be switched. For example, I think there is good argument to have 11-15 ordered as follows: Bradley, Lopez, Froch, Pascal, Cotto.

    The list is updated as of today.

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    3. Sergio Martinez
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Wladimir Klitschko

    6. Fernando Montiel
    7. Nonito Donaire
    8. Andre Ward
    9. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    10. Vitali Klitschko

    11. Carl Froch
    12. Jean Pascal
    13. Miguel Cotto
    14. Timothy Bradley
    15. Juan Manuel Lopez

    16. Lucian Bute
    17. Giovani Segura
    18. Bernard Hopkins
    19. David Haye
    20. Chris John

    21. Devon Alexander
    22. Tomasz Adamek
    23. Paul Williams
    24. Chad Dawson
    25. Shane Mosley

    26. Hozumi Hasegawa
    27. Ivan Calderon
    28. Koki Kameda
    29. Roman Gonzalez
    30. Robert Guerrero

    Alexander and Adamerk are the two I feel could be lower or in the top 20, but don't see who they should replace.

    Williams, Dawson, and Mosely, who used to be ranked high, all need a decent win to get back into top 20 and a good win over a P4P ranked boxer to get close to top 10. Two good wins over P4P ranked boxers may get them back into top 10.
     
    bandido, Dec 5, 2010
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  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    credible
     
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  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I may not agree with the whole lot but I am fairly flabbergasted to find that it's a sane list. ...I was prepared to come in and throw a snarky comment at a bunch of ****, so I'm not really prepared for this right now. I don't know what to say. :?
     
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  4. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    That's a good list. The only guys I'd have in a markedly different position is Hasegawa, who I rate very highly and Gamboa, who would make my top 30 despite not having a very strong resume.

    Aside from a few minor quibbles over placement, that's a good effort.
     
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  5. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Ward should not be higher than Froch:deal
     
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  6. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice list. Can you explain me a bit why Donaire is so high and Froch so low given their recent results
     
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  7. BenjaminLinus

    BenjaminLinus Guest

    Too ****ing exhausting to do anything more than a Top Ten.

    01. Manny Pacquiao
    02. Sergio Martinez
    03. Floyd Mayweather
    04. Wladimir Klitschko
    05. Juan Manual Marquez
    06. Fernando Montiel
    07. Nonito Donaire
    08. Lucian Bute
    09. Pongsaklek Wongjakam
    10. Chris John

    Anyone who has Timothy Bradley or Devon Alexander in the Top Ten should be shot.
     
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  8. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Why is Amir Khan not on the list yet Alexander makes it?
     
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  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very nice list. Maybe Gonzalez, Hasegawa and Hopkins (I wonder how he fell out of the top10 anyway) higher plus Nishioka, Kessler in, but it's a subjective list after all.
     
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  10. TheRoadWarrior4

    TheRoadWarrior4 Active Member Full Member

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    What is this bull$hit?? Worst list ever!!!!... Pacquaio over Mayweather, Wtffff
    :yep
     
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  11. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chris John....?
     
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  12. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Balls what a shite post for my 1000
     
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  13. _King_

    _King_ drunken master Full Member

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    Ward beat Kessler who beat Froch, this is a ranking not who is the better fighter

    Gd list., I think I would have Adamek higher then Chris John
     
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  14. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Thanks. I had Hasegawa ranked in the top 20 before the Montiel loss. I view Hasegawa in the same boat as Williams and Mosely, who lost badly to P4P boxers (Williams to Martinez, Mosely to Floyd, and Hasegawa to Montiel). The only difference is that Martinez and Floyd are better P4P fighers than Montiel, thus, I have both Williams and Mosely ranked higher than Hasegawa.
     
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  15. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Also, I think Khan should be on there.
     
    Henke67, Dec 5, 2010
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