Top 32 heavyweights of all time prime for prime tournament. Who would you have in it and which fighters would make up your quarter finals, semi finals, final and who would you expect to come out on top. Just picked up my boxing encyclopedia's and combined with my own knowledge and guess work im gonna go waste an hour and find out who is the greatest heavy of all time. See you in abit.
In no particular order 1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Lewis 4. Tyson 5. Holyfield 6. Holmes 7. Foreman 8. Frazier 9. Johnson 10. Marciano 11. Dempsey 12. Wlad 13. Liston 14. Wills 15. Patterson 16. Charles 17. Wallcott 18. Bowe 19. Norten 20. Bivins 21. Schmeling 22. Langford 23. Baer 24. Sharkey 25. Carnera 26. Burns 27. Corbet 28. Jeffries 29. Johansson 30. Cooper 31. Folley 32. Vitali It was alot tougher than what I thought it was going to be, this is the best list I could come up with.
1Ali 2Louis 3Marciano 4Dempsey 5Tunney 6Liston 7Lewis 8Holyfield 9Patterson 10Tyson 11Frazier 12Foreman 13Jack Johnson 14Langford 15Corbett 16Jeffries 17Charles 18Schmeling 19Norton 20Young 21Johansson 22Walcott 23Baer 24Braddock 25Wladimir 26Vitali 27Bowe 28Wills 29Sharkey 30Carnera 31Burns 32JOHN HUGGY BEAR RUIZ!!!
Winner; Ali Runner Up; Tyson Semis; Ali v Lewis Tyson v Marciano Quarters; Ali v Jack Dempsey Tyson v Joe Louis Marciano v Holyfield Lewis v Joe Frazier Last 16 Ali v Foreman Tyson v Patterson Marciano v Jack Johnson Lewis v Larry Holmes Dempsey v Gene Tunney Joe Louis v Schmelling Holyfield v Ken Norton Frazier v Jim Jeffries Last 32 Ali v Max Baer Foreman v Ingemar Johanson Tyson v Sam Langford Patterson v James Corbett Marciano v Ezzard Charles Jack Johnson v Joe Walcott Lewis v Riddick Bowe Larry Holmes v Earnie Shavers Dempsey v Harry Wills Gene Tunney v Bob Fitzsimmons Joe Louis v John L Sullivan Schmelling v Roy Jones Jr Holyfield v Wladimir Klitcschko Ken Norton v James Braddock Frazier v Henry Cooper Jim Jeffries v Archie Moore That was HARD!!! I really struggled after about 22ish...
My list, top ten only. In order, while I think some fighters could be beaten by fighters ranked below them due to style considerations. my picks from top to bottom. 1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Holmes 4. Marciano 5. Frazier 6. Dempsey 7. Liston 8. Foreman 9. Lewis 10. Holyfield
Pretty good list, though Frazier is too high, and you find a way to throw Tyson in you top 10 somewhere.:good
Excluding guys who are currently active and potentially still have career-defining fights ahead: 1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Foreman 4. Marciano 5. Frazier 6. Holmes 7. Dempsey 8. Jeffries 9. Johnson 10. Holyfield 11. Liston 12. Tyson 13. Lewis 14. Walcott 15. Charles 16. Bowe 17. Patterson 18. Schmeling 19. Tunney 20. Johansson 21. Langford 22. Max Baer 23. Ken Norton 24. Jack Sharkey 25. Bob Fitzsimmons 26. Harry Wills 27. Elmer Ray 28. Archie Moore 29. Jerry Quary 30. Jim Corbett 31. Tim Witherspoon 32. Tom Sharkey Taking that preliminary ranking as a seeding system, we'll go with 1 vs. 32, 2 vs. 31, etc., swapping with the next guy if it's a fight that actually happened. So, Round 1: 1. Ali vs. Tom Sharkey (Ali UD 15) 2. Joe Louis vs. Tim Witherspoon (Louis TKO 11) 3. George Foreman vs. Jim Corbett (Foreman KO 4) 4. Rocky Marciano vs. Jerry Quarry (Marciano TKO 9) 5. Joe Frazier vs. Archie Moore (Frazier KO 12) 6. Larry Holmes vs. Elmer Ray (Holmes UD 15) 7. Jack Dempsey vs. Harry Wills (Ooh!) (Dempsey KO 6) 8. Jim Jeffries vs. Jack Sharkey (Jeffries TKO 14) 9. Jack Johnson vs. Bob Fitzsimmons (primes) (Johnson UD 15) 10. Evander Holyfield vs. Ken Norton (Holyfield MD 15) 11. Sonny Liston vs. Max Baer (Liston KO 7) 12. Mike Tyson vs. Sam Langford (Tyson KO 3) 13. Lennox Lewis vs. Ingemar Johansson (Lewis KO 2) 14. Jersey Joe Walcott vs. Gene Tunney (Tunney SD 15) 15. Ezzard Charles vs. Max Schmeling (Charles MD 15) 16. Riddick Bowe vs. Floyd Patterson (Bowe TKO 4) Round 2: 1. Muhammad Ali vs. Riddick Bowe (Ali UD 15) 2. Joe Louis vs. Ezzard Charles (primes) (Louis UD 15) 3. George Foreman vs. Gene Tunney (Foreman TKO 5, though high chance of an upset) 4. Rocky Marciano vs. Lennox Lewis (tough call... Rocky KO 9) 5. Joe Frazier vs. Mike Tyson (another one... Frazier TKO 12) 6. Larry Holmes vs. Sonny Liston (Holmes UD 15) 7. Jack Dempsey vs. Evander Holyfield (Ummm... Holyfield SD 15) 8. Jim Jeffries vs. Jack Johnson (primes) (Johnson UD 15) A lot of those were close calls where I went with my gut (and usually my favorite), but it's my tournament, so why not? Round 3: 1. Muhammad Ali vs. Jack Johnson (Ali MD 15) 2. Joe Louis vs. Evander Holyfield (Louis TKO 14) 3. George Foreman vs. Larry Holmes (Holmes UD 15) 4. Rocky Marciano vs. Joe Frazier (Marciano SD 15) Round Four: 1. Muhammad Ali vs. Rocky Marciano (Ali TKO 13 [cuts]) 2. Joe Louis vs. Larry Holmes (Louis SD 15) Final Round: Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Louis (Ali SD 15) Not surprisingly, Ali claims the victory after many close calls between great champions.
you seriously believe that marciano even touches lennox h2h,i dont even think (unless it was one of lewis' off nights) that lennox struggles to win a round in this fight.
1 - Muhammad Ali 2 - Joe Louis 3 - Sonny Liston 4 - Lennox Lewis 5 - Joe Frazier 6 - Jack Johnson 7 - Jim Jeffries 8 - Mike Tyson 9 - Larry Holmes 10-Rocky Marciano 11-Evander Hollyfield 12-Peter Jackson 13-Harry Wills 14-Jack Dempsey 15-George Foreman 16-Max Schmeling 17-Jersey Joe Walcott 18-Gene Tunney 19-Riddick Bowe 20-James J Corbett 21-Ezzard Charles 22-Sam Mcvey 23-Floyd Patterson 24-Vitali Klitchko 25-Joe Jeanette 26-Wladimir Klitchko 27-Max Baer 28-Sam Langford 29-Ken Norton 30-Bob Fitzsimmons 31-Jack Sharkey 32-Sailor Tom Sharkey I'd expect Ali to win this tounrie if he didn't come unstuck against Louis. If he draws Louis in an earlier round, Louis could get him. Then it's wide open. Anyone of Lewis, Tyson, Liston probably one or two others could win it. Be good. I'd get the per view.
I think a granite chinned pressure fighter with huge work rate who is difficult to hit clean would be a nightmare for Lewis. I pick Lennox, but I think you undersetimate Rocky in all kinds of ways here.
That is a somewhat tough one to call in my eyes, since we haven't seen much of Marciano against real behemoth opponents. He did fight a few opponents who weighed over 220, and he demolished all of them, but even the very best of them were only fringe contender-level if you're being generous, so it hardly makes for a sound precedent as to his performance against a great champion like Lewis. However, assuming Marciano has time to prepare for Lewis, eg. maybe sparring with some very big guys and hitting the weights to come in at over 200 for the match (which I think Marciano would be very capable of doing effectively, particularly with more recent weight-training methods), I do believe he at least has a very strong chance at winning. Imagine if Tua were much better conditioned, more aggressive, busier, mentally stronger, more subtly skilled and possessed an elite two-handed arsenal of knockout punches- and let us not forget it only took Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman one punch apiece to take Lennox out.
i dont think that a boxer standing below 6'0 and with such a reach disadvantage and size disadvantage ever gives lewis such a problem (im talking prime lewis here who is simply too big and too measured to allow marciano get inside him).i believe that lewis keeps marciano away with his piston like jab and throws many 1-2s on his way to a very comfortable UD.
yes but we are talking about prime lennox,not the one who got knocked out who was illprepared and rather unwanting.