Top 35 All Time reveal - Boxing Survey Series

I think middleweight is the most debatable of all the lists so far - not that I necessarily disagree with the names but from 5 to 10 and particularly 7 to 10 you could swap names out and have some different names in there without much trouble - Holman Williams, Jake LaMotta, Tommy Ryan... even Tony Zale (if you were feeling generous) - because I honesty don't think there's a lot to choose between them. I'm happy Steele and Walker made the overall top 10 though.

 

For me that's a no brainer tbh.

 

You don't understand.

 

I never rated Steel as high some do on here.

For one I'm not entirely convinced there's ever a period of time where he's the clear number 1 in the division.

 

Hopkins is such a conundrum at middleweight in terms of achievement v H2H.

He held a title in a pretty empty division for the first half of his reign and then unified and established himself as a genuine great in the second half. Unifying against Trinidad and then making half a dozen defenses of the undisputed title is more than enough to put him over the rest of the top 10 but H2H is where it gets interesting.

I'm pretty sure he'd be a handful for any of the top 4 guys but then he'd have his hands full himself with the guys who came directly before him chronologically (Toney, Nunn, McCallum and Jones, of course) who wouldn't get that close to the top 10 themselves (Jones is way too high on the overall list in my view but I digress).

So Hopkins has impressive numbers and proved that he was hard to beat but timing was his friend in building those numbers and I think he's beatable against guys far lower than him in comparison with the four guys above him who most would pick to beat the names lower on the list, I'd say.

 

I don't mind not seeing him in the top 10 at Middle, it's a stacked division and I think his achievements were more impressive at Welter.

I find Kid McCoy pretty underrated at Middle.

 

I won't quibble about Robinson being above Hagler here, though it does pain me.

 

I have to say I’m glad the survey ended without LaMotta in the top 10.

He threw a fight to get a title shot, won it in a sketchy fashion and had a painfully average title reign

Apart from a win over SRR, a great welter who was fighting at that weight in the meeting Jake won, his resume is packed with wins over welters while he was coming in over the middleweight limit — they often had to give up 10 or more pounds to him.

Top 15? Sure. But he’s rightfully not in the top 10.

 

Steele, Walker & Jones are too high. Ryan, Williams & Gibbons too low. Imo

 

I think Holman Williams should definitely be above Ketchel.