Top 35 favorite boxers of All Time - SURVEY CLOSED!!

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Jul 25, 2021.

  1. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich Member Full Member

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    Are you going to order this into a list?
     
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  2. thistle

    thistle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    corrected, that's the best I can do,

    I've rated them as I understand it in their respective groups...

    Many of my picks were Great Contenders and just as Capable World Champions given the Chance. But to try and rate them in Order 1 - 35 or whatever, becomes harder, as it is damn near impossible to be accurate.

    Feel Free to do so, if you wish.
     
  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    The ordering is important and determines the point values each boxer will receive in the survey.
     
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  4. thistle

    thistle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    OK I'll try, though it is never possible, I don't care who you are, hardcore fan or historian, it is damn near impossible for so many reasons, namely the Partisanship, Corruption and Ownership in Boxing.

    Which of course has given us an Inaccurate True Boxing History.

    I'll give it a go.
     
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  5. thistle

    thistle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok no longer grouped by weight, here are the Placements as I see it of the fighters I originally listed.
    None of them are based on achievements, they are ordered in, as who I believe were the overall better Boxers & Fighters than the men below them.

    1 Joe Louis
    2 Jersey Joe Walcott
    3 Ezzard Charles
    4 Marvin Hagler
    5 JCC
    6 Roberto Duran
    7 Tony Canzoneri
    8 James J Jefferies - Best of the Early HWs
    9 Jimmy Wilde
    10 Tommy Hearns
    11 Jock McAvoy
    12 Marcel Cerdan
    13 John Henry Lewis
    14 Hector Camacho
    15 Fred Henneberry
    16 Bert Gilroy
    17 Tony Zale
    18 Dave Sands
    19 Michael Carbajal
    20 Robert Villemain (WW cum MW)
    21 Ernie Roderick
    22 Fritzie Zivic
    23 Ken Norton
    24 Eric Boon
    25 George Chuvalo
    26 Harold Johnson
    27 Zora Foley
    28 Jeremy Williams
    29 Eddie Machen
    30 Vic Folley
    31 Jim Brady (Scotland)
    32 Jake Kilrain (Scotland)
    33 Ginger Sadd (Boxing Technician, not a KO puncher)
    34 Jack Dillion (ultimate tough guys)
    35 Greg Haugan
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    * = logged in the spreadsheet

    *1. salsanchezfan #7
    *2. McGrain #8
    *3. lookatcurryman #9
    *4. TipNom #10
    *5. Quick Cash #13
    *6. CharlieFirpo85 #14
    *7. Ioakeim Tzortzakis #15
    *8. George Crowcroft #16
    *9. The Fighting Yoda #17
    10. TheMikeLake #20 (WIP)
    *11. lufcrazy #22
    *12. Seamus #25
    13. Saintpat #27
    14. HDmexiqtioner #34
    15. William Walker #37
    16. sweetsci #44
    17. ChrisJS #50
    18. Gudetama #53
    19. Young Terror #54
    20. Noel857 #56
    21. Jel #57 (WIP)
    22. Sweetfiend #58
    23. rapscalion #59
    24. BitPlayerVesti #61
    25. theanatolian #74
    26. Philly161 #75
    27. cuchulain #76
    29. Colonel Sanders #83 (WIP)
    30. Kamikaze #85
    31. robert ungurean #87
    32. Tomatron #88
    33. Hearns.right.hand #90
    34. Rubber Glove Sandwich #91 (WIP)
    35. Fogger #92
    36. Minotauro #94
    37. sasto #95
    38. Sooncreate3 #98
    39. Gazelle Punch #100
    40. scartissue #104
    41. PhillyPhan69 #105
    42. JunlongXiFan #110
    43. NoNeck #111
    44. Jpreisser #112
    45. White Bomber #119
    46. thistle #125
     
  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Hey everyone! I hate to do this, but there is a strong chance I'm going to need to push this back 5-6 weeks.

    I'll make a final decision tomorrow, but I do not think I'm going to have time to adequately handle this until early October, in which case I will extend the deadline accordingly.

    I'll make an official announcement here sometime tomorrow, one way or another.
     
  8. Bulldog24

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    1. James Toney
    2. Joe Gans
    3. Jose Napoles
    4. Floyd Mayweather Jr
    5. Michael Watson
    6. Jersey Joe Walcott
    7. Joe Louis
    8. Wilfredo Gomez
    9. Marvin Hagler
    10. Charley Burley
    11. Chris Eubank Sr
    12. Riddick Bowe
    13. Mike Tyson
    14. Carlos Monzon
    15. Meldrick Taylor
    16. Mark Johnson
    17. Michael Spinks
    18. Gerald McClellan
    19. Shane Mosley
    20. Floyd Patterson
    21. Ken Buchanan
    22. Kid Chocolate
    23. Roy Jones Jr
    24. Archie Moore
    25. Alexis Arguello
    26. Tony Canzoneri
    27. Jake LaMotta
    28. Larry Holmes
    29. Ray Robinson
    30. Evander Holyfield
    31. Winky Wright
    32. Sumbu Kalambay
    33. Miguel Canto
    34. Matthew Saad Muhammad
    35. Iran Barkley
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

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    Hey, just a heads up you had one duplicate name in there. Please fix it whenever you get a free chance. No rush, as I'm almost certain I'm going to need to prolong the deadline.
     
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  10. Saintpat

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    Thanks @Rumsfeld and many thanks to you for taking this and your other projects on. I look forward to the final product whenever you’re able to complete it. We all understand life gets in the way.

    I have fixed this on the original ballot — actually kind of glad on it because I was having regrets about Danny Lopez not being on it but didn’t want to change it this late in the game in case you’d already begun your tally.

    Now he’s in there and I looked over the list and wouldn’t change a thing. (Unless you find another duplicate that I missed, haha).

    Again, just want to let you know that I really appreciate your contributions here. If we’re ever in the same time and space please allow me to buy you a beverage so we can sit and talk boxing til last call.
     
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  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Thank you for your super timely response. :thumbsup:

    Yeah, these things happen on longer lists. I myself have made this mistake while compiling Top 10 lists in the past. :lol:

    Unfortunately, at quick glance, it's tricky to identify these (so I'm hoping everyone I haven't already logged can double check theirs before I get to it). But I do have a system that I strictly adhere to that helps catch these things, but unfortunately I don't usually catch them until I enter them into the spreadsheet.


    I'm almost certainly going to need to push this back. I was probably a little ambitious with trying to squeeze this in between the Pac fight and my September obligations, and of course, the unexpected in life sometimes gets in the way.

    But I should have plenty of time to bang through this in early/mid October with the due diligence it deserves.

    So I will make an official announcement, and meantime I will continue the data collection little-by-little as I can.

    I am super fired-up to see the final tallies here. Although, since I'm almost certainly pushing things back, I'll probably tabulate the "Sister Survey" in the General before this one.

    And sure thing on the beverage and boxing talk.
     
  12. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That’s the great thing about history, Rummy: it will be just as fresh and welcome in October (or later) as in August.
     
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  13. Rumsfeld

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    Agreed. And you're like Cool Hand Luke over here, responding before my quick edit.
     
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    1. Joe Frazier
    2. Rocky Marciano
    3. Joe Louis
    4. Henry Armstrong
    5. Mike Tyson
    6. Jack Dempsey
    7. Tommy Morrison
    8. Ray Robinson
    9. Ken Norton
    10. James Douglas
    11. Bernard Hopkins
    12. George Foreman
    13. Roberto Duran
    14. Henry Cooper
    15. Marvin Hagler
    16. Larry Holmes
    17. James Toney
    18. Manny Pacquiao
    19. Jack Johnson
    20. Andre Ward
    21. Julio Cesar Chavez
    22. Roy Jones Jr
    23. Muhammad Ali
    24. Fighting Harada
    25. Sonny Liston
    26. Naoya Inoue
    27. Lennox Lewis
    28. Ray Leonard
    29. Ryota Murata
    30. Vitali Klitschko
    31. Jake LaMotta
    32. Evander Holyfield
    33. Tyson Fury
    34. Jerry Quarry
    35. Chris Eubank
     
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    1. Sonny Liston
    2. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
    3. Joe Frazier
    4. Jack Dempsey
    5. Roberto Duran
    6. Muhammad Ali
    7. Ray Robinson
    8. Joe Louis
    9. Joe Gans
    10. Ezzard Charles
    11. Carlos Monzon
    12. Thomas Hearns
    13. Henry Armstrong
    14. Cleveland Williams
    15. George Foreman
    16. Ray Leonard
    17. Rocky Marciano
    18. Jake Lamotta
    19. Jack Johnson
    20. Nicolino Locche
    21. Sam Langford
    22. Jose Napoles
    23. Benny Leonard
    24. Kid Gavilan
    25. Floyd Patterson
    26. Jersey Joe Walcott
    27. Ken Norton
    28. Gennady Golovkin
    29. Archie Moore
    30. Willie Pep
    31. Charley Burley
    32. James J Jeffries
    33. Manny Pacquiao
    34. Evander Holyfield
    35. Wladimir Klitschko
     
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