Top 40 P4P Greatest H2H Fighters Ever - Rough Draft

Yea, I'm feeling list remorse. Whatever the hell that is... I imagine it's a lot like buyers remorse, which I experience all the time. I suck with these P4P lists and should just drop them for good. Can never make a list I'm ever satisfied with. I think if I'm ever going to do anything it's a HW H2H list. I've wanted to do that but have to established boundaries and rules for it. The HWs are in my element too.

I think Dempsey is better than Chavez (Not in legacy).

Where would you rank Napoles amongst Hearns, Hagler, and Monzon? In order (Not necessarily numbered).

 

Great stuff, this is true.

Where do you rank Monzon strictly as a MW? I know you don't think much of him, but surely he had more physical tools than Hagler.

 

Updated the list a bit. Ross up, Tunney down, Napoles up, Monzon down.

I'm starting to like the list a bit more now.

 

That threw me off a little. While Hagler isn't Napoles, he is still sort of small in frame for MW standards...

Gotcha, remember though that the criteria is 70-30 basically. So there remains some order. You rank Monzon in the top 3 as far as MW go achievements wise, right?

 

How high Meast? Burley was brilliant. Even though he beat Moore, it's hard to rate him ahead. Moore had great success as an old LHW, and was a HW defeating many men 200+ pounds. I think his record over HWs 200+ pounds is like 22-1 by 21 wins coming by KO. I suppose Moore and Burley could bump Louis out, but Louis does damn well for himself in H2H matches as is. With his composite punching, I already have him beating Dempsey, Frazier, Wlad, Vitali, Holyfield, Liston more times than not. He also is a slight favorite over Foreman, and Marciano for me too. I only favor Tyson, Ali, Holmes, over him. The biggest tossup is Louis vs Lewis which I give Lewis a hair more of a chance. And that's all without P4P equation.