Top 400 All Time Greats

I have told you before, Jofre only ever lost against one man, Fighting Harada another great, and both times away from home in Japan, IBRO list Jofre as their #1 bantamweight and as their #15 greatest ever boxer, i have him lower than that at #18, when you came on this site you wanted a group of people to rank boxers ? so what is wrong with them having him at #15 ? {and me having him at #18} they are a group arent they ?

 

Boxers just missing out on the top 400 {perhaps they shouldnt ?} include, Julien Jackson,
Vernon Forrest, John Conteh, JM Marquez and Maurice Hope.

 

The list itself is vast, but it is not a great list at all in terms of quality.[/quote]

In light of the above comment, lets remind ourselves of DINAMITA's recent top 100, shall we :-
1-10
Tier One________________________________________________
Sugar Ray Robinson
Sam Langford
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Ezzard Charles
Muhammad Ali
Roberto Duran
Mickey Walker

Tier Two________________________________________________
Archie Moore*
Barney Ross

11-20
Carlos Monzon
Willie Pep
Benny Leonard
Bob Fitzsimmons
Ray Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Gene Tunney

Tier Three_______________________________________________
Roy Jones Jr*
Emile Griffith
Charley Burley

21-30
Joe Louis
Joe Gans
Eder Jofre
Alexis Arguello
Sandy Saddler
Tony Canzoneri
Kid Gavilan
Barbados Joe Walcott
Jimmy Wilde

Tier Four________________________________________________
Julio Cesar Chavez

31-40
Carlos Ortiz
Bernard Hopkins
Thomas Hearns
Marvin Hagler
Evander Holyfield
Jose Napoles
Lennox Lewis
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Holman Williams*
Ike Williams

41-50
Manny Pacquiao
Salvador Sanchez
Luis Manuel Rodriguez
Ruben Olivares
Fighting Harada*
Jimmy McLarnin
Jack Britton

Tier Five________________________________________________
Michael Spinks
Terry McGovern
Rocky Marciano

51-60
Miguel Canto
Ted Kid Lewis
Billy Conn
Jack Dempsey 'Nonpareil'
Dick Tiger
Jack Johnson
Pascual Perez
Harry Wills
Wilfredo Gomez
Tiger Flowers

61-70
Jimmy Bivins
Bob Foster

Tier Six_________________________________________________
Duilio Loi
Pancho Villa
Tommy Loughran
Stanley Ketchel
Georges Carpentier
Lloyd Marshall
Carmen Basilio
Jake LaMotta

71-80
Joe Brown
Manuel Ortiz
Sonny Liston

Tier Seven_______________________________________________
George Foreman
Ken Buchanan
Joe Frazier
Panama Al Brown
Mike Tyson
Gene Fullmer
Nino Benvenuti

81-90
Mike McCallum
Kid Chocolate
Oscar De La Hoya
Marco Antonio Barrera
Marcel Cerdan
Larry Holmes
Azumah Nelson
Erik Morales
James Toney
Ricardo Lopez

91-100
Tier Eight_______________________________________________
Wilfred Benitez
Carlos Zarate
Felix Trinidad
Aaron Pryor
Nicolino Locche
Antonio Cervantes
Jack Dempsey
Vicente Saldivar
Joe Calzaghe
Benny Lynch

No George Dixon {#35 on my list}
NO Parkey McFarland{#43 on my list}
No Jim Driscoll {#45 on my list}
No Jim Jeffries {#74 on my list}
No Beau Jack {#78 on my list}

These 5 boxers are stonewall top 100 and you have not got one of them in your list :roll:

Instead you have got =
Morales,Bivins,Carpentier and FFS James Toney and Benny Lynch :yikes of Scotland.

You rank Hopkins over Hagler, you got to be off your head with that one. :nut

You rank Manny Pacman over Salvador Sanchez :shock:.

Do i need to go on ?

You have the 'Mighty Atom' at #29 :shock:
You have Monzon above Sugar Ray Leonard :shock:
You have La Motta above Larry Holmes :shock:
You have Liston,Foreman,Frazier as well as La Motta too high :nono
You rank Lennox Lewis as your #3 heavyweight [natural] ?, i have him #7.
You rank Calzaghe as the #2 ATG Welshman, i say #4 ?
You rank Pacquiao as the #1 Filipino, may be one day, currently i have him #3

Hopkins #32 = joke [not even top 50]
Hagler #34 = joke [should be inside top 20]
Pacquiao #41 = joke [no justification for this ranking at this stage]
Wilde #29= joke [top 10 or thereabouts]
Bivins #61 = joke [outside top 100,lost against virtually ever other top fighter he fought]
Morales #88 = joke [well outside top 100]
Toney #89 = joke [well outside top 100]
B.Lynch #100 =joke [well outside top 100, never fought outside UK, infact had virtually every fight in Scotland]

also Roy Jones Jr up at #18 ??? = 'joke', way ahead of Marvelous Marvin Hagler !

The above 'jokes' are way out, i am not going to mention, Ezzard Charles at #5 and Marciano 45 places lower than that {Rocky beat him twice, my gap is only 20 places} or Walker at #8 or Monzon at #11 as they are your choices, but the 'joke' picks i have highlighted above this paragraph are truly terrible :-(