Yawn. I have stated again and again that I will provide my explanations for all/any of my decisions when you tell the truth about posting a list that had Ricky Hatton at 101st and William Joppy at 143rd, ahead of Azumah Nelson, Erik Morales, Harold Johnson and Jimmy Bivins. But not before. And if you seriously think that not including these guys in a top 100 in any way equates to... - having ****ing Junior Jones, Cory Spinks and Sharmba Mitchell above Wladimir Klitschko and Juan Manuel Marquez, or... - having Naseem Hamed at 185 and Jeff Harding at 305 when Sumbu Kalambay is only at 307... or any other the litany of other horrible selections that Sweet Scientist and I have highlighted, then you are even more of a hopeless moron than first thought. :good
Not only are you a poof, but a barking mad poof at that !:happy I have told you the reason for the 'impossible task' thread, see 'post 110' :nut If you dont like the answer thats your problem. On the very first post i stated :- The top 100 is in some sort of order,places 100-200 is difficult to categorize and places 200-400 is virtually impossible to rank in order. I admit the lower down the list the less effort has gone into ranking the boxers, if i am missing somebody or i have a 'doubler' or there a rankings that are clearly wrong, let me know and i will change them, all comments welcome. You are making a complete fool of yourself calling somebody ''rotten'' {**** list, an idiot, a moron} when the above statement was in place from post 1. Some of the boxers you are highlighting as been ranked badly are towards the bottom of a 400 strong list.:nut If you thing the rankings of Junior Jones and Cory Spinks is wrong, or they do not belong just inside a top 400 list, then fine. {both boxers do have a case for such a large list} That is absolutely nothing compared to leaving stonewall top 100 boxers, like Dixon, Driscoll, McFarland, Attell and Beau Jack off your list, some of them boys are arguably top 50 ATG boxers.:nut Thats why am putting lots of nut smilies after some passages, you are arguing for the sake of arguing, you are trying to argue black is white.:nut The only thing we can compare is our top 100 You DINAMITA has a top 100 sweet_scientist has a top 115 {in order} McGrain has a top 101 and i have a top 400 It is only fair to compare the top 100s of everybodies list, and my top 100 on the whole compares to sweet_scientist and McGrain lists better than yours does. At the very minimum my top 100 is ok, because it compares to other sources including IBRO. You never give any credit to anybody,{or recognise any errors you make either, come to that} so what do you think about my top 100 of the 400 list ? You dont like Wilde, you dont like Calzaghe, but is the top 100 ****, you may think the top 400 is ****, but is the top 100 **** ? {remembering it compares to other sources}
I'll address the rest of your post later when I have time, but with reference to above quotation just now: Seriously Trampie, you are embarrassing yourself with behaviour like this on the Classic Forum. Calling someone a poof and following it with a procession of smileys is the conduct of a thirteen year old noob moron on the General. This whole thread truly has been a damning indictment of your character.
Respect for the effort. However, I think your time would have been better served putting together an accurate top 100, or even 50 with some detailed research. There are some glaring inconsistencies. Nobody is too worried about who is number 356.
It's funny you should say that, as soon as I saw your post I went and checked who #356 was... Just read through this thread.
I went down the list and forgot the ****ing number by the time i got there. Who the ****s Tod Morgan anyway ?
I disagree, because I don't believe your good lady would ever behave like half as much of a raving slavering dog as Trampie has.
This content is protected Classy stuff Trampie. It's not that I "don't like" the answer, it's that the answer is a very obvious and very pathetic lie. - You did not write a full top 200 boxers over six months after the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight to get Calzaghe the credit you felt he was not given after the Hopkins fight. Had this been your intention you would have made a thread on it sooner. - You did not write a full top 200 boxers with Calzaghe positioned around 80th in order to get Calzaghe the credit you felt he was not given after the Hopkins fight. Had this been your intention you would have made a thread specifically about getting Joe Calzaghe the credit you felt he was not given after the Hopkins fight. You would not have written a full top 200 with Joe Calzaghe positioned a perfectly respectable and innocuous 80th-ish in order to do this, especially considering that in your "real" lol list, you ranked him about 30 places higher!! - You did not write a full top 200 boxers with Calzaghe positioned around 80th in order to get Calzaghe the credit you felt he was not given after the Hopkins fight. Had this been your intention you would have only written a top 100. If your intention was show Calzaghe deserves a high placing, why bother including the other 100 fighters?? Why would putting William Joppy at 143rd have got Joe Calzaghe more credit for the Hopkins win?? Absurd. - You did not write a full top 200 boxers with Calzaghe positioned around 80th in order to get Calzaghe the credit you felt he was not given after the Hopkins fight, because you defended your choices for page after page until the bombardment about how shite your list was got too much and you crumbled and changed it around. If you had not believed in your list, why did you try and argue your case for the first few pages? Were you lying then? Why were you lying? - You did not write a full top 200 boxers with Calzaghe positioned around 80th in order to get Calzaghe the credit you felt he was not given after the Hopkins fight, and the composition of this list set against your later lists proves this. The 1st 100 of your "joke" list is very similar to the 1st 100 of your current list. If it was a entirely "joke" list, why was it so close to your "real" list up until around 100, and then it suddenly became a hilarious hoax? Why was it that it was all the choices that were utterly lampooned in your "joke" list that were removed/changed by the time the "real" list was posted?? You are a liar. You made a list, it was ****ing awful, and you went off and completely reworked it on the basis of other peoples' opinions. That's why your lists have no credibility and you have no integrity. You thought Ricky Hatton was the 101st and that William Joppy was the 143rd best boxer ever, yet now you are trying to present yourself as some sort of Zen Master on the basis of other peoples' opinions and lists. You are a pitiful and desperate character. Only when you are man enough to admit this and stop lying will I explicate my choices regarding the boxers you speak of. Not before. This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected
I'd participate in it if you actually put them in order yourself trampie, and then it would be worthwhile making improvements to it. Right now it appears like you've slapped no's 200-400 together and you're asking us to make sense of it. A bit too onerous to start making suggestions for every fighter there. The critiques would run longer than your list. If you seriously try and order the 400 (and thereby prove that you know about the sport) sure I'll make some suggestions for improving the list. Would be great to see a decent top 400 list. Certainly is a mammoth task though. By the way, I'm from Melbourne, and I don't much like cricket or rugby, I'm more an Aussie rules football man myself.
Outside of the top 100, they have been ranked in my 'minds eye' and by and large not googled or boxrec'd, i have been to the tennis in Melbourne, nice facility {flinders park}, it was fairly new at the time i was there though, i dont know if its the heat, but the beer is not very good in Oz, VB and Toohey's was just about ok, most of the stuff seemed to be lager, where i come from thats a womans drink. I will try and get round to the mammoth task of trying to formally rank 200-400, but it could take a long time.
Senya13 has Packey McFarland #5 (yes, number five P4P) And I'm pretty certain I know more about him than anybody on this board, I have a large scrap-book with reports on large majority of his bouts, except the early ones where the dates/results are uncertain.
Well lets see your top 100 'Senya13' it could be an interesting list. Have you any info on Packey against Freddie Welsh ?
Bump: too many indescrepencies on this list Jeffries at 74?? and many of the fighters of the last 30 years are very underrated Hopkins 54 too low? Delahoya 83 too low? Pac 119 way too low? Mosley 143 way too low? Fenech 180 way low, Mormeck 218 too damn high, Canizales 273 thats a travesty way too low. Dont have time to get more in depth thats just of the top of my head,just was going thru pass threads and wanted to see what others thought about this list.