As is Marco Antonio Barrera. I agree with both picks. This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected
Infact, sorry Addie, but **** your 'is JMM an ATG' thread. Take another look at how he performed to pull it back after being knocked down a dozen times by Pacquiao early. And take another look at what Pacquiao had been doing to legends around that time and what he's been doing recently to Welterweights. That is ATG chin, balls, heart and boxing ability to pull it back so close. He is definatley cut from ATG cloth
Ray Robinson & Joe Louis were the first two to come to mind. I really don't know how I'd round out the rest of the top five though. I'll just name a bunch. Mike Tyson was an awesome combination puncher. I like to compare him and Evander Holyfield in terms of combination punching, they were both excellent HW combo punchers around the same era. Tyson generally threw two to three punch combinations rather than punches in huge flurries (although there's exceptions like Thomas & Jameson), but combination punching is more about creating and exploiting openings and you can do that to great extent without much quantity. Holyfield could just unleash these volleys of combos in huge number. And they weren't pitty-pat flurries, he put something behind them. Roy Jones threw lightning fast combos, often from weird angles. Roberto Duran and Julio Cesar Chavez were both terrific combination punchers. James Toney could throw brilliant combinations, either high in number (Delgado), or effective two-punch combos. Later in his career, for instance, he saw the double left hook working against Holyfield. More often than not, fighters start off with the hook to the body and then to the head, but Toney did it the other way. One time in the 6th round, the body shot made Holyfield raise his leg in pain. Terry Norris threw some really crisp combinations. Juan Manuel Marquez is perhaps the best combination puncher in recent years. Some of the combinations he threw here, especially later in the fight, have me in awe. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjfswu_hZFw[/ame] Marco Antonio Barrera of course is another terrific combo puncher. I always preferred his style over Erik Morales's because of the crispness of his punches.
The Mexicans seem to have it pinned down quite well: Zarate, Chavez, Barrera, Olivares, Marquez, Lopez etc. So do the Cubans: Chocolate, Napoles, Rodriguez (especially to the body), Gavilan etc. And the D'Amato fighters: Patterson, Torres and Tyson. Robinson has to be the gold standard though, x5 like john garfield says. A lot of punchers with great technical form, such as Arguello and Louis, seem to have it. I also read somewhere that Moore described Burley as either a human nail gun or a human riveting gun, and he should know as well as anyone.
Ray Robinson (Lamotta 6 + most HL reels of his early MW career) Joe Louis (Conn & Walcott KO`s + most HL reels) JC Chavez (Rosario & Haugen beatdown`s) Ray Leonard (Dave Green & Hearns KO`s) Muhammad Ali (Williams, London, Foreman, Frazier etc etc) Ps. currently, I love the way Pacquiao puts his punches together... vs Clottey he was sublime at times, the little guy can fight all right, his combinations were phenomenal.
I can understand Louis, and i kinda know where your coming from with RJJ, but i cant understand the other 3 above Patterson and Ali:huh
Old Foreman was v.good at one-big-haymaker tactics - BUt he did not care for combos. Prime Foreman [1973-1977] was v.good at combinations.
Good shout. Rafael Marquez is definitely a standout combination puncher. Some beautiful ones put together against Vasquez in the third fight.