Top 5 fighters who need to show more to really solidify the hype

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by NoChin, Nov 17, 2023.


  1. NoChin

    NoChin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haney
    Stevenson
    Spence
    Charlo
    Ryan Garcia

    Charlo has a **** load of ground to make up. And I mean a **** load. He's put himself several levels below where he was and where he should be. Really, really regressed. The thing is, he now has to beat some big names. His legacy is tarnished for the time being after that circus show he put in against Canelo. Ducking Mr Tszyu for 2 years was shambolic stuff especially putting on a parachute and jumping out of the division. He needs a massive scalp to earn back respect. A massive, massive scalp.

    Stevenson well yeah yesterday speaks for itself from all accounts. I trust your judgement. I watched half a round then came back on here as it's far more entertaining and stimulating.

    Spence - Horror show vs TC. But at least TC is the best of the best so he will be given a pass for now. Many agree he's not the same fighter post car accident. He has a lot of lee-way imo for the reasons mentioned.

    Haney - Loma beat him. Straight up. Robbed. Fact. Didn't this guy's team buy him a win early on in his career when he fought in mexico? Sounds like bar room brawling brah. Like Donny Creed. Only Haney didn't lose his stang he lost his cred.

    Ryan Garcia - Lost his confidence vs Tank. Tank took his soul. Garcia beat Luke Cambell but Cambell's lost 4 times in total. Losing to Tank is no shame. TBH, I like Garcia. A dude that hasn't been afraid to put it all out there and has come from nothing. I like the fact he talks openly about his struggles and the guy has great boxing skills. I'd like to see him come back and earn himself another big fight as well as winning it, and many more. He's on the list because he's high profile and a big name. He's in action again soon and I'm glad as he's great for the sport of boxing. Unlike most others he's not a total flog either. He's real.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I'd say:

    Davis
    Stevenson
    Haney
    Alimkhanuly
    Bivol

    Those guys need to show me a bit more to be worthy of their hype. Davis hasn't beaten a top fighter in years and is outrageously referred to as a 3 division champ. Haney beat Kambosos but the victory over Loma was razor tight and I don't think he separated himself as the better fighter. Stevenson was a beast at SFW but calling him a 3 division champ is just outrageous. Alimkhanuly needs to do whatever it takes to get the belts unified early in his career if he wants to avoid some of the downsides we saw with Golovkin if he holds all belts and stays there for a decade, all big fights will have to go through him regardless of any one else thinking they're the A side. Bivol is touted as a mega skilled fighter, which he appears to be, but until he fights Beterbiev I don't wanna see him anywhere near a p4p list.
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You guys know I don't mince my words and I'm always going to speak my truth and give it to your raw and if it takes hurting your feelings sometimes to get my point across to you then so be it.

    The simple albeit painful for many truth is the American school of slickness whilst once great is just no longer an elite school anymore. It's in a crisis.. in deep deep trouble.

    Last night it slipped below Belgium, Iraq, Lesotho, and Bolivia on the International Slickness Scale and it now rests at #43 it's lowest ever ranking, a whopping 42 places below the #1 ranked Great Britain.

    Granted there's no shame whatsoever being ranked below the consensus #1 ranked Great Britain which is obviously the gold standard of slickness and unlike the American school it's a skill based school not a fear based one

    But being ranked below Iraq?

    Belgium?

    Lesotho?

    And Bolivia? :facepalm:

    You guys need to embrace and champion a real fighting man like Super Boots not petrified featherfisted chickens like Shakur and Haney who despite having spent their careers hunting leprechauns who they're much/way bigger than they couldn't even knock over a plastic skittle with their Sunday punch.

    Mark my words, their sleep-inducing unmanly, cowardly even, godawful boring safety-first styles are not only killing the sport in the US they'll kill it worldwide if they're allowed to keep fighting on televised cards.
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jaron Ennis

    Over 30 fights unbeaten and was awarded Crawford's belt but he hasn't fought any one of the top Welterweights.

    I'm not saying it's all his fault but he needs to step up in 2024 to prove himself.