Top 5 Greatest Fighters

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  1. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Cool
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Got a top 5?
     
  3. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Nope, could never work it out
     
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  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali
    Pep
    SRR
    Louis
    And don’t shoot me Mayweather...Mayweathers resume is weaker then the others but on ability alone. I don’t think I’ll ever see another fighter that good at hitting and not getting hit.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Eh, I can't shoot anyone who thinks Mayweather is the goat
    My dad does
     
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  6. mcvey

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    Are you referring to the Jack Johnson v Langford fight?
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yes, not that I have seen it. Just read reports.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Johnson won it comfortably,he knocked Langford down twice for long 9 counts , cut his eye, and broke his nose.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Really, from what I've read he was thought to have won a robbery despite the KD

    Edit: Although my reports are very flimsy and could be false
     
  10. mcvey

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    Here is one report from Senya, who posts some good stuff here.
    http://senya13.blogspot.com/search/label/Jack Johnson

    Al Phillips, Nat Fleischer's Father in law saw the fight and said Johnson skated it!
    There is a good write up of it in Clay Moyle's excellent biography of Langford too.
    Here is a 1919 quote from Langford in which he mentions the Johnson fight.

    "In a 1919 interview for the Register, an Ohio publication, when asked who the greatest fighter was,Langford said :Jack Johnson,reminded that he had picked Jeffries to beat Johnson,"didn't you say that Jeffries would beat Johnson?"Sam replied "Yes,yes I did say that, but I was sore at Johnson then.You know he gave me quite a lickin a long time ago in Boston,and when he got to be champion he would never fight me again.
    I was sore at him but all the time, way down in my heart,I knew that he was a great man.
    The day I saw him beat Jeffries made me surer.Jeffries was in good shape that day.he never could have taken the licking he did if he wasn't in good form.
    You know he was just as fast as ever,but he was like a baby when he boxed Johnson.
    I tell you that Johnson was so big ,so strong,so clever.He had everything,he was never hurt,never had a black eye , or a cut,never broke a hand,and he beat the best in the world.I call that considerable doing.
    He was never even tired in a fight.He just fought his own way,went about it in a business-like way and made the other fellow look foolish.
    Hit? Yes sir! I never hit the floor harder in my life than the night he hit me.I thought I'd go right through the floor of the ring".
    Pretty solid testimonial from the great Langford!
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Cheers for that, it's quite the read!!
     
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  12. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Modern fighters only

    1.Roy Jones
    2.Muhammad Ali
    3.Carlos Monzon
    4.Ray Leonard

    Then it falls off a bit

    So many contenders for the 5 spot. Chavez Pacquiao Holyfield Duran Hopkins Harada
     
  13. George Crowcroft

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    How is Floyd not in contention for modern fighters?
    Also what is your criteria?
     
  14. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Had Roy Jones retired after the first Tarver fight he would have made my list
     
  15. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here's a slight different approach, a Best from the Top boxing Nations

    USA - SRR
    UK - Len Harvey
    Europe - Cerdan
    Mexico - JCC
    Aus - Dave Sands
    SA - Mugabi (?)
    Panama - Duran

    I don't know for certain, but a good start.