Top 5 Heavyweight best wins of current elites?

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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For me..

    1. Joshua win vs Klitschko
    2. Fury win vs Klitschko
    3. Wilder win vs Ortiz
    4. Joshua win vs Whyte
    5. Parker win vs H.Fury

    Can argue the top two.. Fury out boxed him in a terribly boring fight, Joshua put him away. Klitschko was younger vs Fury but probably trained with more drive for Joshua fight given the occasion.
     
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  2. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Joshua vs Klitschko
    2. Fury vs Klitschko
    3. Joshua vs Whyte
    4. Wilder vs Ortiz
    5. Whyte vs Browne/Joshua vs Breazeale
     
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  3. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't rate Hughie Fury then?
     
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  4. Big Ukrainian

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    Povetkin vs Takam and vs Chambers way better than Whyte vs Browne.

    Ortiz vs Jennings was better than Whyte vs Browne.

    Hell Whyte vs Chisora is better than Whyte vs Browne,

    Today's Browne is on par with today's Stiverne.
     
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  5. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mine:

    1. Fury win vs Klitschko
    2. Wilder win vs Ortiz
    3. Joshua win vs Klitschko
    4. Joshua win vs Takam
    5. Parker win vs H.Fury

    They are the most meaningful wins for me, taking into account styles, how the fights went and how much risk the opponent carried at the time to both the winner - and also the division in general.
     
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  6. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Any fight within the resume of a current elite HW?

    1) Fury over Wlad

    2) Josh over Wlad

    3) Wilder over Luis

    4) Pov over Ruslan

    5) Bellew over David
     
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  7. McGrain

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    I've never, ever, ever seen a second win over a previously enormously dominant fighter be valued over the first win, except in cases when the first win is suspect (does not apply here).

    Ever.

    So that's incredibly strange.
     
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  8. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you have a point, and while styles make fights... I question how Wlad prepared for Fury. I imagine he thought he'd win .. maybe not comfortably but I bet he trained for Joshua fight like his life depended on it, as he's far more dangerous and it was his last hurrah.. Plus Josh stopped Wlad, Fury probed, picked and prodded Wlad to a decision.
     
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  9. Papillon

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    1. Fury v Wlad
    2. Wlad v Povetkin
    3. Wlad v Chagaev
    4. Joshua v Wlad
    5. Wilder v Ortiz

    I'm assuming Wlad v Chagaev can be added, if not replace it with Povetkin v Chagaev.

    Alot of hype going on Dillion, 1st as an alleged "top 5" heavyweight and second that this win has elevated him to the status he seems to be enjoying.
     
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  10. Papillon

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    Fury shut a dominant Wlad down, Joshua was dropped and facing a 41yo inactive Wlad.
     
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  11. McGrain

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    I haven't seen any evidence, ever, for Wlad preparing with anything other than total professionalism for any fight. He fought some really average fighters. He was always beautifully turned out as far as I could see. He was exactly the same weight as he was for Pulev.

    As for this idea that a KO is "worth more" than a knockout, that would mean Edwin Valero was "worth more" as a fighter than Willie Pep, which I completely reject as an idea.

    Basically, from no angle does the Joshua knocking out Wladimir mean more than Fury out-pointing him. IN fact I'd argue it means less. Four men have KO'd Wladimir, outpointing him is clearly much harder. Only one has ever done it.

    But I think this does say something about electioneering. The idea that Joshua's victory over Wladmir was somehow special or unique has been pushed hard from some quarters.
     
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  12. andrewa1

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    Good thread. I'd probably say 1. Fury Wlad 2. AJ Wlad 3. Wilder Ortiz 4Povetkin Chambers 5. Povetkin Byrd
     
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  13. Dagnaldinho

    Dagnaldinho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hughies beaten nobody. If he werent Tyson Furys cousin noone would care about him.
     
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  14. Papillon

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    Excellent call with Povetkin v Byrd.
     
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  15. dinovelvet

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    Whats excellent about it? Byrd was shot to bits and wasn't ranked in the top 10 any more. . That fight is on the same level as Helenius vs Peters.
     
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