Top 5 HWs?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Jul 24, 2019.


  1. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arreola is another overrated very poor HW on par with Chalres Martin & Stiverne that became a WC through very good match making against very poor opposition. Arreola best career win that got him the title shot was against Eric Molina FFS. Adamek beat Arreola 3 years prior to stiverne beating him.
     
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  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    That was three years ago... what's he done since?

    Is he another one of your geriatric patient alongside Ortiz??

    Just imagining Ortiz and Pulev on Zimmer frame in your Doctor's waiting area.

    Have you ever given rectal examinations btw?
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    No, you’re basically a fanboy/casual who doesn’t really know boxing from ten years ago. Molina is maybe a top 5 win for Arreola, giving Molina the benefit of the doubt.

    Arreola was badly out of shape for Adamek and lost by a point or two because he gassed. He was better when he fought Stiverne. Btw Adamek was a top 5 heavy.
     
  4. NoNeck

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    He didn’t win fights by headbutting and employing refs who allow you to stumble and grab your way around the ring like a multiple sclerosis patient, and then **** Arnold era steroids.
     
  5. Jackman65

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    My list keeps changing. Wouldn’t it be great if these guys would just fight each other and show the world who is the best HW on the planet? There are so many 50-50 fights at HW, at least on paper. Usyk coming into the mix could make it even more interesting but we still don’t know how he would do against a much bigger opponent. It’s a different ballgame when the other guy can knock you out with one punch and when the bigger guy doesn’t go down when you catch him with your best shot on the button.

    Potentially, this embarrassment of riches is good for boxing but something tells me they will find a way to screw it up. I’m cool with any of the names mentioned being at the top, even for a short time. I just hate waiting years to see it happen because I remember a time when we didn’t have to wait. At least not so long.
     
  6. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who did Arreola beat that deserves credit to consider a top HW? Molina is his best win and that says it all.

    You describe Ortiz as top 5 HW yet you apply a win over Rivas means very little. However both Ortiz and Rivas best career win is the same opponent in Jennings.
     
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Well if you think you can referee better, then let me hold your beer? It's a fight, accidents happen... not the first, not the last...
    • Independent RING magazine got my boy listed as top 5.
    • BoxingForum24... (where you spend most of your time when not doing rectal examinations on geriatric Cubans)... also have Whyte as top 5.
    I know you are in pain to see Whyte ranked so highly by the boxing world.... maybe you should see a colleague about that?
     
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  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Smells like well cooked Bias to me? With some hater seasoning... and a small portion of crybaby fries.
     
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  9. NoNeck

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    Walker, McCline (1st to ko him since he really learned to box), Witherspoon’s zero, Molina. He was brought in by HBO to lose to Seth Mitchell and destroyed him. Arreola only lost to top guys back then meaning Vitali and Adamek (close).

    Stiverne put himself in the company of Adamek and Vitali and not the prospects and hype jobs who Arreola ate for breakfast.
     
  10. NoNeck

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    WBC has him NOT mandatory, and that’s what counts.
     
  11. Aydamn

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    Neither is Ortiz or Joshua or Fury

    Dont see your point? How did you ever make it out of medicine school? Get some dodgy refereeing of your own??
     
  12. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    McCline a notable win? I wouldnt deem so. Lost to the likes sconiers, Lawrence and Ruiz. Walker lost to numerous gate keepers.

    You can't praise these guys as notable wins and play down wins over the likes Chisora and Rivas.
     
  13. NoNeck

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    Why are pulling up late loses of McCline? Arreola was the guy who knocked him out and permanently bounced him from even being a fringe contender. This occurred 1.5 years after McCline had a prime Sam Peter down two or three times and almost out.

    Walker at the time he fought Arreola was 21-1-1. He’s one of about ten different prospects with records just like that whom Arreola terrorized.

    Chisora and Rivas were never ranked as high as Arreola. Rivas has almost nothing to his name other than a competitive win over a years past his best version of Jennings. Rivas still almost put Dillianabol out.
     
  14. GALVATRON

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    You realize its 2019 now right ? Arreola hasn't had any significant win since around 10 years ago and McCline ? That guy was nearly on a 3 fight losing streak before he fought Arreola and that was a guy I knew but its now 9 years later and you're telling us former wins of Wilder oppoents count NOW ? lol

    Not one guy Wilder has defeated went on to do anything ,most in fact took losses or fought weak competition .

    the only guy Wilder fought with actual relevant history of a name in boxing was the one he lost and that was Fury.
     
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  15. NoNeck

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    Do you realize what year it was when Stiverne beat him?