I can't believe the lack of Sugar Ray Leonard in this thread. He was a complete boxer, speed, power, footspeed, chin, accuracy, reflexes, etc...
I rewatched it and had it even more of a convincing victory for Beterbiev I don't know what more Beterbiev could've done to have won the fight more convincingly - so many power punches. Yeah, maybe Usyk had an off night. Beterbiev was lucky to make it past Michael Hunter in the first place.
Surprised no one has mentioned Shane Mosley. I'll also throw Benitez in the mix. While these may not be top 5 material, both solid honorable mentions who I haven't seen in this thread yet. When it comes to physical talent, Yuriorkis Gambia is a good shout for a more recent fighter.
It seems that a lot of people only consider physical gifts as in speed and size. I think chin and power are equally important. So my 2 cents: SRR/ SRL has absolutely everything a fighter can wish for. Size strength power chin speed reflexe, etc Tyson: chin speed power built Foreman: size chin brute strength Pac: speed chin power head size Oscar: chin power speed size and such a handsome face (yes! It is a physical gift lol)
I agree to a certain point, while chin sure is important, when i think about natural talent i think about a young boxer getting in the gym and his trainer realizing that he has a future champion on his hands and i think that power is an important in that kind of situations. One of my favorite examples is Francisco Bojado, if you saw him in his first 10 or so fights you will see a crazy talent despite not knowing much about his chin because the quality of the chin is discovered after the boxer experiences adversity and adversity is what separates the great talents from the real champions, but talking about great talents only, i don't think that chin is an important part of the equation, is an important part to convert that talent into something real.
Foreman was 6'3 230 pounds as a amateur and had really quick feet. According to Ali he was the best at cutting off the ring. Foreman hand speed was so slow because of what? You said so. Out of his 45 wins he had 42 kos. Why didn't those people run? Everything I said was wrong because you don't know crap about boxing? I told you various people play high school or college sports. So all over them would have to be great athletes too if you are going to say Joshua played soccer. He didn't play for any pro league teams. I am wrong about Tyson's stamina? It is okay for him to get tired but not for Foreman to get tired in 1 bout? Go back to crying over your man heroes with your cartoon picture as your profile picture kid.
SRR got knocked down and or hurt a lot in his prime. The people who put him down were huge punchers either. Pac's power was steroid created. You noticed since Mayweather called him out for Steroids he hasn't had a KO? De La Hoya didn't have a glass chin but it wasn't like he got hit flush over and over again by big punchers and shook the blows off. Tyson didn't have a glass chin either but it clearly wasn't elite level. In his prime he faced tomato cans and knocked them out easy. When he did face fighters who fought back they all knocked him out.
With the exception of Ali who has something to say about all of his opponents no body else who fought a young Foreman called him slow. I guess you know more about boxing than they do though.
Foreman started his career at 210 and weighed approximately 220 for Ali ,he was not fast at 220 and would not be remotely fast at 230 . I also didnt say anything about ring cutting and Foreman had the size advantage and power to drive opponents backwards who were much weaker when he met a similar fighter in Lyle he was saved by the bell .You also stated Tysons chin wasnt elite but Jimmy Young wth around 20% k.o percentage knocked Foreman down too while Tysons chin held up to Ruddock a harder hitter than Foreman was ?You are a simpleton.
You have specifically quoted chin and power of the one listed, I do not necessary disagree, however those guys also have other departments covered in spade like speed, reflexes. i would not include khan or Judah in the list of physical gifted fighter, while I understand the Ali inclusion, for me he lacks power.
slow in comparison to the elite speed demons is what I mean, slow is too strong of a word for a skilled talent like Foreman I agree.
I know he is an imbecile "Foreman had fast feet, IRON mike's chin wasn't elite, SRR was knocked down a lot in his prime by weak punchers" What a dope