Top 5 most skilled and talented over the last 30 years

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Who are you're top 5 most skilled and talented fighters over the last 30 years?

    Fighters who's careers started or won their first world title after 1978.


    1. Roy Jones jnr
    2. Pernell Whitaker
    3. Floyd Mayweather jnr
    4. Sugar Ray Leonard
    5. Bernard Hopkins

    Number five was my toughest pick. Tyson, Hearns, Nunn, Marquez, Hopkins, etc could well have had my 5th spot.
     
  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard are without a doubt # 1 and # 2
     
  3. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Roberto Duran doesn't count. His career was well underway before 1978 and he won his first world title in 1972.
     
  4. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why omit him. 78' was 30 years ago. Does Leonard not count because he turned pro in 76 or 77? Gotta take Hopkins off the list because I'm sure his first pro fight was around 1970.:D
     
  5. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't do all 5 now but Haglar would be on my list
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not even a mention of Camacho?
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy Jones for sure. Hagler also. He was sheer prefection in the first hamsho fight and in the Sibson fight. I saw the rematch with Hamsho and watching Marvin live at the Garden was electrifying making all other stars of the 80's seem dim by comparison. Camacho also had great skill that most people are not able to pick up because he was so fast-too fast for the eye to follow. Mike Spinks had skillz in an awkward way. Pernell would have to be my #5 with his outstanding wins over Chavez, Nelson, and Mcgirt.
     
  8. Sweet Pea

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    Jones
    Leonard
    Whitaker
    Mayweather
    Hearns















    And well below these true elites are guys like Camacho and Norris.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Ray Leonard is # 1. He was a true champion, he knew how to win the big fights
     
  10. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry, but Tyson has to be in this list.
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Leonard is my number one choice for "P4P" over the last 30 years. But not when it comes to outright talent and skill.

    Mayweather is better all round. I believe offensively he's equally as good, even though he doesn't quite have the same power. Obviously Leonard could punch better as he started off at welterweight. Mayweather started at super-featherweight. But when Mayweather's power was at it's most fearsome at 130lbs and 135lbs, he never punched as hard as Leonard did at welterweight. Punch power isn't talent and skill, although both shine more with power behind it.

    And when it comes to defense, Mayweather has much more variety than Leonard. While Leonard had superb ring generalship and was defensively very good, he was mainly a mover when it came to defense. The rematch with Duran and the Hagler fight. If Mayweather slowed down and was caught against the ropes like Leonard was against Hagler, lets say Mayweather in a similar situation, trust me he'd be tougher to hit. Leonard picked his opportunties as well as any fighter in history. But that would come under intelligence between his ears rather than outright physical skill and talent.

    Leonard's defense was basic against Duran, well basic compared to Mayweather's. Move, flurry, move. If you notice Leonard was straight up and down; simple. Mayweather's one sided boxing display against Corrales involved more complex and varied defensive moves. His ability to duck down to waist height underneath punches, and also his usual shoulder blocking technique.
     
  12. JMP

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    Roy Jones Jr
    Pernell Whitaker
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Thomas Hearns
    Floyd Mayweather

    with a special mention for tyson
     
  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well said, Robbi. Mayweather's ridiculous on the ropes. Every bit as good as Toney if you ask me.

    It speaks volumes that he's fought fighters like N'Dou and Corrales and taken almost zero punishment.
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Also, it's good to see Nunn at least get a mention here.

    People gloss over Jones showing against a weight drained Toney... Nunn looked better against a better Toney before getting caught, in my opinion.
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Russell. Toney's just outside the top 5. Not sure exactly where I'd place him, but he'd be in my top 10. You could make a good case for Mayweather, Leonard or Whitaker, being number 2. I've went with Whitaker. Not because of his superb defensive skills, but his offense was awesome as well, even though the consequences weren't devasting when he landed. His jab may well have been the best of my top 5.