Top 5, or top 10 heavyweights post-Ali era

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  1. Unforgiven

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    Who gets into your top 10?

    My top 5 would be something like :

    1. Tyson
    2. Holmes
    3. Holyfield

    (^those three would be the top tier. I could make arguments for them in any order.)

    4. Lewis
    5. W.Klitschko
    (second tier, almost interchangeable.)


    Places 6-10 ?. I think Vitali Klitschko, Riddick Bowe and Tim Witherspoon would certainly make it.
    Then maybe Pinklon Thomas or Mike Weaver.
    There's a number of others, I guess, who could sneak in.
     
  2. McGrain

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    I'll have:

    01 - Lennox Lewis
    02 - Larry Holmes
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    03 - Evander Holyfield
    04 - Mike Tyson
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    05 - Wladimir Klitschko
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    06 - Vitali Klitchko
    07 - Riddick Bowe
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    08 - Tim Witherspoon
    09 - Chris Byrd
    10 - Pinklon Thomas
    11 - Michael Moorer
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    12 - James Douglas
    13 - Ray Mercer
    14 - Oliver McCall
    15 - Razor Ruddock


    Grouped fighters ----- are interchangeable, pretty much.
     
  3. mr. magoo

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    Good list. Though I'd be inclined to squeeze Mike Weaver in there somewhere. I think he might belong in there more so than guys like Mercer or Ruddock
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    Interesting list.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    I agree.
    I'd rate Berbick above some of them too.
     
  6. mr. magoo

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    True and another good call.
     
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    16 - Mike Spinks
    17 - Trevor Berbick
    18 - David Tua
    19 - Mike Weaver
    20 - John Ruiz
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    I think Mac just about nailed it. My only gut reaction as far as changing anything would be to swap Mike & Evander, despite their h2h. I know opinions vary widely on that and there are legit cases to be made in either direction, so not too fussed about it. Otherwise, very, very solid ordering all the way down.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    I'm a big advocate of Herc, but can't see him any higher than just barely knocking at the door of 15 like you've said and even that seems iffy, not sure he really should be in over Donovan or the Atomic Bull. :think

    edit: yeah, just saw Mac's update, somewhere 16-20 works for sure. :good
     
  10. Anh

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    1 - Tyson
    2 - Larry Holmes
    3 - Evander Holyfield
    4 - Lennox Lewis
    5 - Wladimir Klitschko
     
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    Yeah, I think that he's clearly the highest ranked of the lost generation, Herc, and I think if you look at his "second career" alone maybe, possibly...but he boxed a whole career and I can't see him any higher than that really. I see distance between he and Ruddock/Mercer.
     
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    :good
     
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    I left off Rahman who would be 16.
     
  14. mr. magoo

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    I think he rates higher than Mercer, and while he doesn't have a win over Lennox Lewis, his list of scalps runs much deeper than McCall's or Ruddock's. Weaver's record doesn't look pretty on paper. But most of his defeats came either early in his career when he was being used as a build up guy for prospects, late in his career when he was past it, or against the elite of the division in mostly gallant losing efforts.. Among his wins, we have prime versions of John Tate, Gerrie Coetzee, James Tillis, Carl Williams, Johnny Duplooy, Bert Cooper and Bernardo Mercado. He was also arguably robbed against Michael Dokes in their 1983 rematch. He gave fits to a peak Holmes as well. Of all the alphabet champions of the 80's, Weaver was the only member of the lost generation to hold a title for any length of time and defend it successfully. Controversial circumstances is what took it from him. If nothing else, he certainly should rate higher than Ray Mercer and Razor Ruddock. The rest are debatable.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    Ruddock's overrated.
    He's more in the Gerry Cooney category.