Top 5 overrated

deyell · Feb 8, 2018

dinovelvet said: ↑

wtf has Joshua on the p4p list? He's not overrated , at all.. When you have weekly threads claiminh Chenk beats Weather , Pac , Hectoe and the who;s who on the ATG list ..then thats overrateing somenbpy
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And he might as well beat some of those ATGs so what is your point? Albeit I don't like those fantasy match-ups with fighters of the past because those fights will never happen. And let's be honest about Joshua: majority of the posters on this forum claim he is the real deal, while they think that Wilder is a fraud. But the thing is that even a tomato can crusher like Wilder has a real shot to beat Joshua...

Nonito Smoak · Feb 8, 2018

Agree with 2, 3, and 5.

Everybody knows Linares' limitations. He's getting overhype by some Lomo fanboys in anticipation of those two fighting, sure, but that's it. He's a very good fighter.

Usyk, I guess overrated is relative so you could make the case, but the dude is the goods and I don't see people sticking him P4P #1 quite yet.

CST80 · Feb 8, 2018

Here's my Top 10 Most Overrated. Which will surely get a few people all rankled.

1. Errol Spence Jr.
2. Anthony Joshua
3. Amir Khan
4. Alexander Povetkin
5. Jermall Charlo
6. Badou Jack
7. Terence Crawford (not skill wise, but his resume is ****)
8. Demetrius Andrade
9. James DeGale
10. Callum Smith

dinovelvet · Feb 8, 2018

deyell said: ↑

And he might as well beat some of those ATGs so what is your point? Albeit I don't like those fantasy match-ups with fighters of the past because those fights will never happen. And let's be honest about Joshua: majority of the posters on this forum claim he is the real deal, while they think that Wilder is a fraud. But the thing is that even a tomato can crusher like Wilder has a real shot to beat Joshua...
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I support Joshua becuase he's Britsh but ive rouninely said Wilder is worng for him stylistically.
Joshua doesn;t get a huge amount of support and any fantasy h2h match up that comes up has him losing in lop sided fashion. I dont see at all how he's overrated. That Dutch guys prediction poll had WK as the favorite

deadACE · Feb 8, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

Not trying to be mean here, but.... That's maybe the ****tiest overrated list I've ever seen. You either have no taste, are trolling, or option number 3, you DKSAB. Same goes for all the people who liked this post.

Clearly your reasoning is flawed as well.... What? Because there's a few fanboys who praise Usyk a little too much, that means he's overrated? No, he's rated just fine, if anything, many posters on here that HAVE NOT followed the Cruiserweight division, have Boxrec'd his opponents instead of actually watching them fight, and know nothing about the skill level and talent of guys like Mchunu or Hunter, and at best may have seen Glowacki-Huck because it was aired here in the states. The amount of ignorance being spewed about Briedis after his match against Perez is ridiculous, yeah he didn't look exemplary against him, because he's a southpaw, other than that Briedis has looked brilliant. And Usyk beat them all with relative ease, including Briedis, who I'd pick to beat Gassiev and Dorticos. Usyk is the most skilled man 200 or above, his speed, his elusiveness, his footwork, his combinations, his angles, his conditioning are immaculate, if anything, he's UNDERRATED. As far as all the, oh Usyk doesn't have enough power crowd, when you step up, opponents have far better chins, most guys don't usually step up and fight the top of their division by their 10th and 11th fight, his power is just fine.

No one who knows anything about Saunders is hyping Saunders based on his performance against Lemieux, they're basing it on all of his performances, most of which haven't been seen by most of the people who's only knowledge of him is in the Lemieux match, which is debatably, not even his best win. Here's the deal, most BJS fanboys knew the sky was the limit with Saunders, if only he could work on his stamina, he looked absolutely amazing against Lee, until around the 8th round, and looked brilliant against Eubank as well, that is.... until once again the 8th round, all he needed to do is push himself to get in amazing shape and he could sustain his brilliance beyond the 8th, well he's finally done what we've all wanted to see him do for years, and finally looked as brilliant and untouchable from 1-12, as he usually does from 1-8, so you could forgive us if we're a little excited.

Linares isn't overrated by anyone, most of his fans, like myself, are fully aware of his flaws and shortcomings. His chin isn't glass, his skin is unfortunately like paper, but when he's on point, he's one of the smoothest operators in the sport today. Sure he may not KO guys left and right, and may get tagged more than he should, but that like with Loma is because its in his nature to want to put on a show, and can get drawn into wars a little too easily. His skillset isn't overrated in the least, all he needed to do was to get his temperament right, and stay focused for all 12, which thankfully under the tutelage of Salas he's finally pulling that off, and putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together, and at this point.... the sky's, or at least, his skin and chin's the limit.

Fury is as smooth a BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG man as you're going to get, the mother****er is 6'9, and he's as fluid in the ring as a young Ali, his footwork, handspeed, counter punching, feinting, control of range and distance are astonishing..... for such a big oaf, he's not overrated in the least, if anything he is underrated as well. You have to put Fury into the proper perspective, partially he gets rated so highly because of his size, big looming goofballs aren't supposed to be that fast or slick.

Wilder, no one is fooling themselves about his lack of skill, that's quite obvious, no one is overrating him actually, most of his fans are willing to readily admit he's flawed in that department. But, his power is legit, and brutal, and when KO artists KO people violently, that gets them a lot of hype with this sports KO obsessed lusting for blood fanbase. KO's give people brainfog, same can apply to all the AJ fanboys who are willing to overlook his GLARING flaws, because in the end, they think all of that will be erased, if he can land that one shot. AJ and Deontay are both brutal KO losses waiting to happen, no one with a few functioning brain cells are deluding themselves to that reality.
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Dry your eyes.

CST80 said: ↑

Not trying to be mean here, but.... That's maybe the ****tiest overrated list I've ever seen. You either have no taste, are trolling, or option number 3, you DKSAB. Same goes for all the people who liked this post.

Clearly your reasoning is flawed as well.... What? Because there's a few fanboys who praise Usyk a little too much, that means he's overrated? No, he's rated just fine, if anything, many posters on here that HAVE NOT followed the Cruiserweight division, have Boxrec'd his opponents instead of actually watching them fight, and know nothing about the skill level and talent of guys like Mchunu or Hunter, and at best may have seen Glowacki-Huck because it was aired here in the states. The amount of ignorance being spewed about Briedis after his match against Perez is ridiculous, yeah he didn't look exemplary against him, because he's a southpaw, other than that Briedis has looked brilliant. And Usyk beat them all with relative ease, including Briedis, who I'd pick to beat Gassiev and Dorticos. Usyk is the most skilled man 200 or above, his speed, his elusiveness, his footwork, his combinations, his angles, his conditioning are immaculate, if anything, he's UNDERRATED. As far as all the, oh Usyk doesn't have enough power crowd, when you step up, opponents have far better chins, most guys don't usually step up and fight the top of their division by their 10th and 11th fight, his power is just fine.

No one who knows anything about Saunders is hyping Saunders based on his performance against Lemieux, they're basing it on all of his performances, most of which haven't been seen by most of the people who's only knowledge of him is in the Lemieux match, which is debatably, not even his best win. Here's the deal, most BJS fanboys knew the sky was the limit with Saunders, if only he could work on his stamina, he looked absolutely amazing against Lee, until around the 8th round, and looked brilliant against Eubank as well, that is.... until once again the 8th round, all he needed to do is push himself to get in amazing shape and he could sustain his brilliance beyond the 8th, well he's finally done what we've all wanted to see him do for years, and finally looked as brilliant and untouchable from 1-12, as he usually does from 1-8, so you could forgive us if we're a little excited.

Linares isn't overrated by anyone, most of his fans, like myself, are fully aware of his flaws and shortcomings. His chin isn't glass, his skin is unfortunately like paper, but when he's on point, he's one of the smoothest operators in the sport today. Sure he may not KO guys left and right, and may get tagged more than he should, but that like with Loma is because its in his nature to want to put on a show, and can get drawn into wars a little too easily. His skillset isn't overrated in the least, all he needed to do was to get his temperament right, and stay focused for all 12, which thankfully under the tutelage of Salas he's finally pulling that off, and putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together, and at this point.... the sky's, or at least, his skin and chin's the limit.

Fury is as smooth a BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG man as you're going to get, the mother****er is 6'9, and he's as fluid in the ring as a young Ali, his footwork, handspeed, counter punching, feinting, control of range and distance are astonishing..... for such a big oaf, he's not overrated in the least, if anything he is underrated as well. You have to put Fury into the proper perspective, partially he gets rated so highly because of his size, big looming goofballs aren't supposed to be that fast or slick.

Wilder, no one is fooling themselves about his lack of skill, that's quite obvious, no one is overrating him actually, most of his fans are willing to readily admit he's flawed in that department. But, his power is legit, and brutal, and when KO artists KO people violently, that gets them a lot of hype with this sports KO obsessed lusting for blood fanbase. KO's give people brainfog, same can apply to all the AJ fanboys who are willing to overlook his GLARING flaws, because in the end, they think all of that will be erased, if he can land that one shot. AJ and Deontay are both brutal KO losses waiting to happen, no one with a few functioning brain cells are deluding themselves to that reality.
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Your Joshua bashing is hilarious and ridiculous at the same time. It's clear you don' rate him but you bang on about him at every available opportunity. How many times can one person express the same opinion.

CST80 · Feb 8, 2018

deadACE said: ↑

Dry your eyes.

Your Joshua bashing is hilarious and ridiculous at the same time. It's clear you don' rate him but you bang on about him at every available opportunity. How many times can one person express the same opinion.
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Dry my eyes? Really?

I write a wall of test, and the only thing you saw was AJ, try cleaning the goop out of yours.

dinovelvet · Feb 8, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

Here's my Top 10 Most Overrated. Which will surely get a few people all rankled.

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1. Errol Spence Jr.
2. Anthony Joshua
3. Amir Khan
4. Alexander Povetkin
5. Jermall Charlo
6. Badou Jack
7. Terence Crawford (not skill wise, but his resume is ****)
8. Demetrius Andrade
9. James DeGale
10. Callum Smith
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Lets be real here.. Loma and Usyk get way more overrated than any of those guys. Craw and Loma are great talents (loma moreso imo) but their records are extremely average. I dont rate Lomas , ore Crawfords record. If Usyk beat Gassy , he'll have a better resume by miles.

CST80 · Feb 8, 2018

dinovelvet said: ↑

Lets be real here.. Loma and Usyk get way more overrated than any of those guys. Craw and Loma are great talents (loma moreso imo) but their records are extremely average. I dont rate Lomas , ore Crawfords record. If Usyk beat Gassy , he'll have a better resume by miles.
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Not here in the US they don't. I don't rate Loma's record to the moon either, but at this stage, based on the number of fights he's had in comparison with Crawford, his can be ranked higher, but yeah I totally agree on your point about Usyk.

Octolony shore · Feb 8, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

Not trying to be mean here, but.... That's maybe the ****tiest overrated list I've ever seen. You either have no taste, are trolling, or option number 3, you DKSAB. Same goes for all the people who liked this post.

Clearly your reasoning is flawed as well.... What? Because there's a few fanboys who praise Usyk a little too much, that means he's overrated? No, he's rated just fine, if anything, many posters on here that HAVE NOT followed the Cruiserweight division, have Boxrec'd his opponents instead of actually watching them fight, and know nothing about the skill level and talent of guys like Mchunu or Hunter, and at best may have seen Glowacki-Huck because it was aired here in the states. The amount of ignorance being spewed about Briedis after his match against Perez is ridiculous, yeah he didn't look exemplary against him, because he's a southpaw, other than that Briedis has looked brilliant. And Usyk beat them all with relative ease, including Briedis, who I'd pick to beat Gassiev and Dorticos. Usyk is the most skilled man 200 or above, his speed, his elusiveness, his footwork, his combinations, his angles, his conditioning are immaculate, if anything, he's UNDERRATED. As far as all the, oh Usyk doesn't have enough power crowd, when you step up, opponents have far better chins, most guys don't usually step up and fight the top of their division by their 10th and 11th fight, his power is just fine.

No one who knows anything about Saunders is hyping Saunders based on his performance against Lemieux, they're basing it on all of his performances, most of which haven't been seen by most of the people who's only knowledge of him is in the Lemieux match, which is debatably, not even his best win. Here's the deal, most BJS fanboys knew the sky was the limit with Saunders, if only he could work on his stamina, he looked absolutely amazing against Lee, until around the 8th round, and looked brilliant against Eubank as well, that is.... until once again the 8th round, all he needed to do is push himself to get in amazing shape and he could sustain his brilliance beyond the 8th, well he's finally done what we've all wanted to see him do for years, and finally looked as brilliant and untouchable from 1-12, as he usually does from 1-8, so you could forgive us if we're a little excited.

Linares isn't overrated by anyone, most of his fans, like myself, are fully aware of his flaws and shortcomings. His chin isn't glass, his skin is unfortunately like paper, but when he's on point, he's one of the smoothest operators in the sport today. Sure he may not KO guys left and right, and may get tagged more than he should, but that like with Loma is because its in his nature to want to put on a show, and can get drawn into wars a little too easily. His skillset isn't overrated in the least, all he needed to do was to get his temperament right, and stay focused for all 12, which thankfully under the tutelage of Salas he's finally pulling that off, and putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together, and at this point.... the sky's, or at least, his skin and chin's the limit.

Fury is as smooth a BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG man as you're going to get, the mother****er is 6'9, and he's as fluid in the ring as a young Ali, his footwork, handspeed, counter punching, feinting, control of range and distance are astonishing..... for such a big oaf, he's not overrated in the least, if anything he is underrated as well. You have to put Fury into the proper perspective, partially he gets rated so highly because of his size, big looming goofballs aren't supposed to be that fast or slick.

Wilder, no one is fooling themselves about his lack of skill, that's quite obvious, no one is overrating him actually, most of his fans are willing to readily admit he's flawed in that department. But, his power is legit, and brutal, and when KO artists KO people violently, that gets them a lot of hype with this sports KO obsessed lusting for blood fanbase. KO's give people brainfog, same can apply to all the AJ fanboys who are willing to overlook his GLARING flaws, because in the end, they think all of that will be erased, if he can land that one shot. AJ and Deontay are both brutal KO losses waiting to happen, no one with a few functioning brain cells are deluding themselves to that reality.
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it's just my opinion, a lot of people agree with me though.

CST80 · Feb 8, 2018

Octolony shore said: ↑

it's just my opinion, a lot of people agree with me though.
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Yeah there is, but... deadACE and Dfaulds, both AJ fanboys, therefore now hate Wilder, 22JM a Canelo fanboy, and now a new Saunders hater, and @lewis gassed everyone knows, he doesn't know **** about boxing. Not sure what Wigan and Long Count's deals are. But I'm sure they probably have an agenda too.

deadACE · Feb 8, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

Dry my eyes? Really?

I write a wall of test, and the only thing you saw was AJ, try cleaning the goop out of yours.
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I saw the drivel you wrote and I agree that Usyk is overrated. I guess my eyes are clean.

CST80 · Feb 8, 2018

deadACE said: ↑

I saw the drivel you wrote and I agree that Usyk is overrated. I guess my eyes are clean.
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Of course that's what you think lemming, because you're an AJ fanboy, and you reflexively feel threatened by Oleksandr, therefore you lash out at who you fear the most. You guys on here aren't the most subtle when it comes to suppressing your fears. When you're afraid your guy will get beaten by someone, you all overcompensate like a mother****er.

Murat's gonna win, Murat's gonna win, Murat's gonna win, is all we're hearing by all the haters, because they know deep down, Usyk will be P4P, and the mere thought of that enrages them, so they write without giving a valid reason why that'll be the outcome, and spew their drivel hoping and praying with their fingers crossed that that outcome will come to pass, so they can be rid of this pest Usyk they all so fear.

Octolony shore · Feb 8, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

Yeah there is, but... deadACE and Dfaulds, both AJ fanboys, therefore now hate Wilder, 22JM a Canelo fanboy, and now a new Saunders hater, and @lewis gassed everyone knows, he doesn't know **** about boxing. Not sure what Wigan and Long Count's deals are. But I'm sure they probably have an agenda too.
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Does anyone that doesn't like the same fighters as you get the DKSAB label?

Gil Gonzalez · Feb 8, 2018

CST80 said: ↑

Yeah there is, but... deadACE and Dfaulds, both AJ fanboys, therefore now hate Wilder, 22JM a Canelo fanboy, and now a new Saunders hater, and @lewis gassed everyone knows, he doesn't know **** about boxing. Not sure what Wigan and Long Count's deals are. But I'm sure they probably have an agenda too.
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Lewis Gassed is a premier poster.

Sir Will Wigan and Long Count are ESB legends! Will Wigan might even be an actual lord.....

You really need to ban yourself.

CST80 · Feb 8, 2018

Gil Gonzalez said: ↑

Lewis Gassed is a premier poster.

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Of course he is, here's the proof, he hates your guts and likes everything I post.

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